While out in California for the Science and Nonduality Conference, I had some downtime before the conference started, so I decided to tape a long panel discussion with a rather large group of friends, most of them previous guests on Batgap. Sofia University in Palo Alto (where transpersonal psychology was founded by Abraham Maslow and others), generously provided a room and video equipment. I’m especially grateful to Dr. Jeffery Martin, who conducts research there, for offering and organizing this. It was an experiment, and some were skeptical that it would work, but it did! This is part 1. The link to Part 2 is below.
Participants in the morning session included:
| Name | Other Batgap Interview(s) | Website(s) |
| Chuck Hillig | 7/21/2010 | chuckhillig.com |
| Clare Blanchflower | clareblanchflower.com | |
| Craig Holliday | 1/3/2015, 12/19/2018*, 10/25/2019* | craigholliday.com |
| Dana Sawyer | 9/29/2010, 2/9/2014*, 3/19/2016 | dana-sawyer.com |
| David Buckland | 9/25/2015, 10/27/2017* | davidya.ca |
| David Ellzey | 1/16/2016 | davidellzey.com |
| Francis Bennett | 8/4/2012, 4/21/2013* 10/26/2013*, 5/24/2014*, 10/23/2014*, 10/21/2016, 10/25/2016* | |
| Jeffery Martin | 1/25/2017 | drjefferymartin.com nonsymbolic.org |
| Kiran Trace | 11/2/2013, 09/24/2015 | kirantrace.com |
| Kristin Kirk | 2/16/2014, 5/24/2014* | kristinkirk.com |
| Laurie Moore | 7/21/2012, 10/24/2013 | counselingscottsvalley.us animiracles.com |
| Mariana Caplan | 2/3/2012, 1/6/2013, 10/25/2019* | marianacaplan.com |
| Rick Archer | 6/5/2010, 3/16/2013, 5/11/2014, 10/23/2015, 10/24/2016, 10/21/2017, 12/19/2018*, 10/25/2019*, 10/27/2019 | You’re on it. |
| Susanne Marie | 7/7/2013, 10/24/2014*, 10/23/2016* | susannemarie.org |
*In group discussion.
Recorded 10/22/2015
YouTube Video Chapters:
- 00:00:00 – Introduction to the Group Conversation
- 00:04:03 – Introducing the Panel
- 00:06:55 – What is Enlightenment or Awakening?
- 00:10:12 – Individual Experiences of Awarenesses
- 00:13:30 – Integration and Human Integration
- 00:17:55 – Direct experience and the recognition of pure emptiness
- 00:22:17 – The Sonar-ic Being and Enlightenment
- 00:25:34 – Embracing the Silence, Recognizing Mind Activity
- 00:29:44 – Embracing the Present Moment
- 00:33:29 – Awakening as an Ever-Evolving Process
- 00:36:37 – Becoming Sensing Beings
- 00:40:09 – The Uniqueness of Being
- 00:43:13 – The Value of Words and Identity
- 00:45:51 – Awakening from Awakening
- 00:48:30 – Awakening into Divinity Plus Humanity
- 00:51:42 – The Movement of Formlessness to Form
- 00:54:38 – Exploring the Layers of Identity
- 00:57:51 – Dissolution of Self and Unity Consciousness
- 01:01:17 – Oneness in Brokenness
- 01:04:04 – The Challenges of Teaching and Compassion
- 01:06:43 – Enlightenment and Torture
- 01:09:38 – The Journey of Growth and Enlightenment
- 01:12:52 – Finding Peace in the Chaos
- 01:15:57 – Surrendering to Love
- 01:19:01 – Practical Integration and Life Decisions
- 01:21:53 – The Changing Landscape of Awakening
- 01:24:58 – The Diversity of Experiences
- 01:29:51 – The Spacious Quality of Experience
- 01:34:18 – Exploring Emotion and Persistence
- 01:38:43 – The Dance of Love and Joy
- 01:43:12 – Musical Interlude
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