658. Matt Garrett

Growing up, a burning desire to seek truth took hold. After years of searching, the need to see reality overtook the need to avoid suffering. Through the marriage of inquiry and surrender, realization unfolded in ways that could never have been imagined by my former self.

After seeing through the illusion of separation, there is now a keen interest in exploring the mystery of reality and the human form. The stage of integrating this non-dual understanding into daily life is ongoing and beautiful, and something I return to daily. Not just to help myself, but to look for ways to alleviate suffering for anyone who is interested.

Website: matt-garrett.org

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Interview recorded August 14, 2022

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
  • 00:06:32 – Finding Freedom through Surrender and Inquiry
  • 00:13:07 – The Paradox of No Self
  • 00:20:28 – The Empty Body and the Aliveness Within
  • 00:26:32 – Inquiry into the Self and Objects
  • 00:30:48 – Spiritual Development and Full Blossoming
  • 00:35:31 – Tapping into Non-Duality and Expressing It
  • 00:39:23 – The Relationship between Free Will and Determinism
  • 00:42:57 – Different Levels of Spiritual Maturity
  • 00:46:23 – The Importance of Discernment and Checking Desires
  • 00:49:05 – The Pendulum Analogy
  • 00:52:32 – The Courage to Pursue Inner Development and Incorporate it into Daily Life
  • 00:55:54 – The Fullness Within Yourself
  • 00:59:43 – Resistance and Trusting the Universe
  • 01:02:57 – The Play of Life and the Power of Surrender
  • 01:06:48 – The Awakening after Giving Up Seeking
  • 01:10:28 – Going Beyond the Self
  • 01:13:57 – Beyond Awakening
  • 01:17:28 – The Calling to Go Deeper
  • 01:21:28 – The Flexibility of Reality and the Dilemma of Purpose
  • 01:25:54 – Transitioning from Purpose to No Purpose
  • 01:30:01 – Finding Freedom Beyond Purpose
  • 01:33:40 – Surrender and Inquiry
  • 01:37:10 – The Wisdom to Accept the Unchangeable
  • 01:40:22 – The Transformation of Inquiry
  • 01:43:25 – Emotional Work and the Inquiring into the Self
  • 01:46:55 – The Impersonal Nature of Suffering
  • 01:50:53 – Surrendering Personal Suffering for Humanity
  • 01:54:45 – The Balance of Selfishness and Altruism in Helping Others
  • 02:00:23 – Knowing the Self and Helping Others
  • 02:05:21 – Farewell and Outro

645. Anoop Kumar

Anoop Kumar communicates a bold, new vision of healing and healthcare based in a more comprehensive understanding of whole human anatomy–a crucial step in the journey of healthcare transformation. He is the founder of Health Revolution, an emergency physician, public speaker, and author of Michelangelo’s Medicine: How Redefining the Human Body Will Transform Health and Healthcare and Is This a Dream?: Reflections on the Awakening Mind, and a columnist for Emergency Medicine News.

Integrating a deeper understanding of consciousness with our existing medical knowledge is foundational to Anoop’s work. To further this, he developed the Three Minds framework–a trans-disciplinary approach that develops and integrates our knowledge of consciousness, mind, body, and the environment. He applies the Three Minds framework to identify unexamined tenets ripe for disruption and rehabilitation in healthcare.

By training, Anoop is board-certified in emergency medicine and holds a master’s degree in management with a focus in health leadership.

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Interview recorded May 7, 2022

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction with Rick Archer
  • 00:04:39 – An Explosive Experience in the Bedroom
  • 00:08:48 – Remembering Past Lives
  • 00:13:06 – Timeless Experience
  • 00:17:25 – Defining Consciousness and Brahman
  • 00:21:55 – Taking a Scientific Approach to Spiritual Concepts
  • 00:26:23 – The Cleansing of Perception and Integration
  • 00:30:48 – The Three Minds Framework
  • 00:35:49 – The Formation of Identity
  • 00:40:57 – Moving from the Physical to the Mental World
  • 00:45:40 – The Relationship Between the Physical and Mental
  • 00:50:27 – The Three Minds Framework
  • 00:54:59 – The Nature of Light and Perception
  • 00:59:26 – Awareness of the Second Mind
  • 01:03:44 – The Three I’s and Existence Across Different Layers of Reality
  • 01:08:36 – The Difference Between Jesus and Hitler
  • 01:13:02 – The Perception of Existence
  • 01:17:46 – Speculation on Unity of Minds
  • 01:22:07 – The Three Minds: Jeeva, Saguna Brahman, and Nirguna Brahman
  • 01:26:53 – Integrating Fields of Knowledge and Society
  • 01:31:53 – Perception and Identity
  • 01:36:45 – The Sense of Identity in Spirituality and Psychosis
  • 01:41:18 – The Power of the Mind and Restructuring through Spirituality
  • 01:45:44 – The Importance of Guidance in Spiritual Practice
  • 01:50:00 – Setting Personal Standards
  • 01:54:19 – The Influence of Culture on Religion
  • 01:58:58 – The Process of Integration
  • 02:03:27 – The Power of Creativity and Connection
  • 02:07:56 – The Role of Intuition in Spiritual Guidance
  • 02:12:14 – Healing and Becoming Whole
  • 02:16:47 – Closing Remarks and Resources

625. Colin Drake

Colin was born in a staunch protestant family into the war-torn east end of London in the aftermath of WWII, where austerity and food-rationing were the norms. At the age of 11 he was sent to a Methodist boarding school and from there went to Sheffield University. So, by his early twenties finding himself in Earls Court, West London, in the late 60s when the ‘hippie revolution’ was in full swing he was fully ready to break out of the narrow confines that had dogged his life up until then. He discovered the power of high dose LSD to break the barrier between the subconscious and conscious allowing decades of religious (and social) conditioning to pour out, leaving him feeling totally cleansed as if his brain had been truly washed!  He also experimented with mescalin having read Aldous Huxley’s ‘The Doors of Perception’ and had many experiences which felt deeply spiritual in nature including ‘sitting’ above his body for hours and observing the world (and the body itself) from this vantage point. It was this that gave him glimpses as to what could be achieved by natural means which raised one’s consciousness to a ‘higher level’. He was reading Ouspensky at the time and could see that many of these experiences tallied with those that he described. He was fully convinced that Awakening was the purpose of life, but Ouspensky made the whole process sound so onerous that Colin decided to postpone the attempt and enjoy life while he was young and living in such a vibrant environment.

About ten years later his wife Janet persuaded him to accompany her to a yoga class given by an ex-Jesuit priest. who inspired us by quoting passages from the Upanishads, Dhammapada, and other scriptures during the class. He also emphasized the importance of relaxation and meditation.  There followed a few years of investigating various spiritual paths including a prolonged dalliance with the Brahma Kumaris (Raja Yoga) whose meditations were wonderful, but whose dogma he found very hard to take. They then moved into the country to start a pottery and immersed themselves in Satyananda Yoga, an organization that had no dogma but taught a wide range of yogic practices. They were both initiated into karma sannyas by Swami Satyananda and adopted a yogic lifestyle consisting of asanas, pranayama, yoga nidra, meditation, kirtan, and vegetarianism. During this time Colin was at a silent retreat when he happened to pick up a volume entitled The Gospel of Ramakrishna which introduced him to this amazing being who practiced many spiritual paths, within Hinduism and also Islam and Christianity, discovering that they all lead to the same result, and was then approached by many devotees from these various paths all of whom he was able to teach in their own path, whilst emphasizing the harmony of religions.

After ten years of meditating on Ramakrishna, having been initiated by a nun of that order, he encountered a disciple of Sri Ramana Maharshi, Gangaji, who said ‘Stop! Be still, you are already That’.  The message being that the effort and search were masking that which is always present; all that was required was to ‘stop’ and see what is always here.  After many years of struggle and effort this news came like a breath of fresh air and he glimpsed the essence, that undeniable ever-present reality.  This was followed by a seven-day silent retreat, in 1996, which resulted in his first ‘Awakening’, and in an ecstasy that slowly faded over the following year. During this time, he began to be aware of the utter simplicity of the process, especially as it became more established through repeated self-inquiry. The realization that one is the Pure Awareness that underlies the whole of life, and in fact all things, became startlingly obvious; so much so that he became increasingly disillusioned by most spiritual writings which seemed to mystify this whole subject. This created the desire to put the matter in the simplest, most straightforward, way so that anyone could understand it … and through repeated inquiry (or investigation) ‘get it’. At the time he was writing the occasional article for his email group and it was the collection of these plus a few new ones that became his first book ‘Beyond the Separate Self’. He also completed an honours double-major degree in Comparative Religion and Philosophy and his honours thesis, which considered self-identity in the world’s major religions became the basis of his second book ‘Humanity – Our Place in The Universe’. Since then, answers to questions, interpretations of spiritual writings from all traditions, and new insights gained during meditation/contemplation have been compiled and published in another fourteen books. All of these are ‘stand-alone guides’ to Awakening as they all rely on the same ‘investigation into this moment of direct experience’ which is included in them all and is explained in full in each introduction. They have all also been converted into books of poems, one per chapter. For the full list visit Beyond Awakening Publications.

You are all welcome to visit his Facebook page where he posts poems, new articles, and photos of nature taken in his natural environment of sub-tropical rainforest with ocean views. Finally, all are invited to join his email group by contacting him at colinj108@gmail.com.

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Interview recorded November 27, 2021.

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
  • 00:04:31 – Initial Interest in Spirituality
  • 00:08:34 – Profound Shift in Perception
  • 00:12:27 – Exploring Yoga and Meditation
  • 00:16:12 – Exploring Spiritual Influences
  • 00:20:11 – The Impact of Gangaji’s Teachings
  • 00:24:41 – The Importance of Prior Practice in Awakening
  • 00:29:08 – The Awakening and Compassion
  • 00:32:40 – Investigating the Three Elements of Experience
  • 00:36:22 – The Three Elements of the Mind and Awareness
  • 00:40:12 – The Properties of Presence
  • 00:44:44 – The Field of Awareness and the Absolute
  • 00:48:58 – Reversing Damage through Spiritual Practice
  • 00:52:27 – Pure Awareness and Stilling the Mind
  • 00:56:21 – Universal Awareness
  • 01:00:06 – The Awareness of Electrons and Consciousness in the Universe
  • 01:04:15 – All motion arises in stillness
  • 01:09:12 – Incorporating Gyana Yoga into Daily Life
  • 01:13:32 – The Mind’s Purification and Moral Behavior
  • 01:17:45 – Attention to Karma
  • 01:21:42 – The Beauty of Hatha Yoga and Morality
  • 01:25:44 – The Meaning of Love and Ego Death vs Spiritual Awakening
  • 01:29:45 – Efficiency and the Elasticity of Time
  • 01:33:50 – Providing Pointers to Getting Started
  • 01:37:38 – The Method of Self-Inquiry
  • 01:41:51 – The Practice of Awareness of Awareness
  • 01:46:29 – Negating Thoughts and Sensations
  • 01:50:37 – Living as an Instrument of That
  • 01:55:22 – The Importance of Experience and Actualization
  • 01:59:51 – Using Awareness to Relieve Pain
  • 02:03:55 – Sorting It All Out