Stephan Bodian is a teacher in the nondual wisdom tradition of Zen, Dzogchen, and Advaita Vedanta and the founder and director of the annual School for Awakening, an intensive six-month program of exploration and study. His offerings are noted for their humor, warmth, spontaneity, and intimacy and combine direct pointers, lively dialogues, silent sitting, and guided self-inquiry. He’s the author of several books, including Wake Up Now: A Guide to the Journey of Spiritual Awakening and Beyond Mindfulness: The Direct Approach to Lasting Peace, Happiness, and Love.
Stephan spent a decade practicing Zen intensively as a monk but left the monastery because he sensed that the rigorous practice of meditation was obscuring the truth he was seeking. After studying Dzogchen for several years, he met his guru, Jean Klein, a European teacher of Advaita Vedanta, who told him to stop meditating and instead discover the meditator. Shortly after meeting Jean, he had a profound awakening to his true identity as timeless presence. After Jean’s death, Stephan met Adyashanti, and in 2001 Adya gave him Dharma transmission and invited him to teach.
Trained as a psychotherapist, Stephan also offers individual spiritual counseling and mentoring sessions to people throughout the world. His approach blends direct, experiential, nondual wisdom with the insights of Western psychology to support students in realizing who they really are while inquiring into the stories and patterns of thinking and behaving that continue to cause suffering.
Website: stephanbodian.org
Other books:
- Meditation For Dummies, w/Audio CD (Also available in various languages.)
- Timeless Visions, Healing Voices: Conversations with Men & Women of the Spirit
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Summary and Transcript of this interview.
First BatGap interview with Stephan.
Interview recorded July 11, 2021
YouTube Video Chapters:
- 00:00:00 – Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
- 00:05:20 – A Shift in the Locus of Identity
- 00:10:00 – The Vastness and Dream States
- 00:15:05 – Roshi’s Uninhibited Behavior and the Fall of the Center
- 00:20:18 – Bodhidharma’s Precepts and Acting in Integrity
- 00:25:13 – The Ugly Truth and Confrontational Behavior
- 00:30:15 – Dealing with the Shadow and Integrity
- 00:35:01 – Narcissism in Spiritual Teachers and the Direct Path
- 00:39:53 – Awakening and the Role of the Teacher
- 00:44:51 – The Role of Teachers and the Need for Discernment
- 00:49:48 – The Impressionability of the Mind
- 00:54:19 – The Interface Between Science and Spirituality
- 00:57:59 – The Direct Meeting and Potential for Transmission
- 01:01:23 – The Pitfalls of Spiritual Teachers and Sex
- 01:05:31 – Boundary-crossing and predatory behavior
- 01:09:01 – Spiritual Teachers and Dark Triad Qualities
- 01:12:56 – The Importance of Care in Spiritual Evolution
- 01:16:34 – Relationships and Higher Callings
- 01:19:59 – The Literary Invention of Crazy Wisdom
- 01:23:47 – Compassionate Being and True Crazy Wisdom
- 01:27:12 – Starting a New University
- 01:30:43 – The Strange Fit Between Narcissists and Spiritual Teachers
- 01:34:16 – Embracing Human Relationships
- 01:37:51 – Giving Power Away and Seeking Enlightenment
- 01:41:49 – Being Your Own Authority
- 01:45:11 – The Horse and the Whip
- 01:48:28 – Different Spiritual Teachers and their Teachings
- 01:51:57 – The True Guru Within
- 01:55:49 – The Awakening Journey
- 01:59:32 – The Role of a Spiritual Teacher
- 02:03:10 – School for Awakening
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