049. Scott Kiloby

Scott Kiloby is a “Non-Dual” author/teacher from Southern Indiana (USA). He is the author of “Love’s Quiet Revolution: The End of the Spiritual Search” and “Reflections of the One Life: Daily Pointers to Enlightenment.” He is also the creator of a revolutionary addiction recovery method called Natural Rest. His book, “Natural Rest: Finding Recovery Through Presence,” is scheduled for release in early 2011. In addition to details of his meetings and retreats, there are many essays, quotations and videos which can be viewed on his web site. He also holds frequent meetings all over the world, in person and online via Skype and teleconferencing.

To quote Scott, “We live our lives asleep. Our minds are programmed for self-centeredness. This programming causes us to spend our lives seeking the future for a sense of contentment we can’t seem to find. It causes conflict in our relationships. To say that we live in self-centeredness is not a moral judgment. It’s a statement of fact. The good news is that awakening from this self-centered dream is possible in this lifetime. This awakening reveals a depth of freedom and contentment that no relationship, job, material item, self-improvement plan, or any other accomplishment or attainment in the material world can bring. This level of freedom frees us from our endless seeking towards future. It frees us from conflict so that our real nature as love shines through, affecting every area of our lives.”

Living Realization is a new section on Scott’s web site and e-book/text of the same name.  The Living Realization section contains many resources.  Living Realization meetings will begin soon!  These meetings will be divided up in groups so that Scott can meet people where they are.  Living Realization is a more structured method than anything on the KILOBY.com site.  Through the Living Realization, people can participate and gain support, gather together in a community of like-minded people, and meet one-on-one or in group sessions with Scott. His addiction recovery site is naturalrestforaddiction.com.

Interview recorded 12/4/2010.

2nd interview with Scott

Audio and video below, and as a Podcast. Video also available on Facebook in 20-minute segments.

25 thoughts on “049. Scott Kiloby

  1. The critique of others is a very effective tool for substantiating the apparent realness of the critiquer.

    Critiquing is simply differentiation.

    Which makes the apparent differentiator very happy.

    Who am I to bust the differentiator’s balloon, though.

    When there isn’t a balloon to bust in the first place.

  2. Differentiation doesn’t conflict with non-duality. If you go to a restaurant and don’t like the food, you’re critiquing it. It’s a relative evaluation of a relative thing. You don’t say “it’s all one so it doesn’t matter what I eat”. You render unto Caesar what is Caesar’s. Same can be said of judging teachers, as long as, with food, you recognize that one man’s meat is another man’s poison.

  3. There is a difference between functional differentiation… which assists you to continue to play a role in The Play… and ideological differentiation… which, more often than not, just solidifies the sense of separateness between you and others.

    And until you real-ize that ideological differentiation is a significant contributor to the appearance of our separateness from others, you’ll won’t see the distinction between functional differentiation and ideological differentiation as clearly as you can.

    I can distinguish a toilet seat well enough for me to take a good shit, and yet apperceive no separation between you and me while I do so.

  4. I love these interviews Rick, but I’m afraid Anita is right on this one. You did seem to want to talk a lot. I thought maybe you wanted Scott to act as a kind of confirmation of your views on what you term neo-Advaita. Unfortunately this seems to have watered Scott down into chit-chat mode, mirroring yourself. I thought this was a fascinating thing, in its way, but it resulted in Scott’s very strong message washing around in chatty generalisms. If I hadn’t already known of Scott’s take I would be none the wiser here. Compare this with the conscious.tv interview, where Scott is given huge space to put his message across. It makes me realise just how we can end up getting an acceptable version of our own ‘insights’ from others. I don’t say that we inhibit others into mirroring our own views, but rather we make others less forthcoming because they don’t see the point in contending with fixed views (and there is no view more fixed than one that thinks it is open) and it all just collapses into chit-chat. I loved your Richard Sylvester and Ananta interviews, by the way. Maybe you’d just drunk to much coffee for this one… But I do think your antipathy towards what you regard as ‘fundamentalism’ is actually a fundamentalism in itself. Both sides of this debate are becoming tedious, not just the ‘no-one there’ side. Scott emphasised listening to where others are coming from, which is what is happening here in this interview, but actually he is at his ‘purest’ (clearest) when talking to no-one in his webcam videos. Interesting that, don’t you think?

  5. Very insightful comments Jasmine. And it’s clear from the nearly unanimous sentiments that I needed to chill a bit, both in terms of how much I talked, and in terms of my anti-neo-advaita fundamentalism. Hopefully I’ve done both in the last six months, but don’t hesitate to call me on it. I like Scott a lot and I intend to interview him again one of these days.

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