048. Khen Rinpoche Tsetan

Khen Rinpoche Geshe Kachen Lobzang Tsetan is Abbot of the Tashi Lhunpo Monastery in Bylakuppe, in southern India.

He is a Tibetan Buddhist monk from Ladakh, India, who has lived and taught in the United States for more than fifteen years. He began his monastic life at age seven in Stok, his family village.  At age thirteen he joined the Stok Monastery to study and memorize Buddhist scriptures.

In 1952, when he was sixteen years old, he walked with his father from Ladakh to Shigatse, Tibet, to enter the famous Tashi Lhunpo Monastery. The 800-mile trek took them over two months to complete. Khen Rinpoche Tsetan received his novice monk vows there and studied Buddhist philosophy at the monastery’s Skilkhang College with many prominent Tibetan scholars.

His dream was to receive the Geshe degree in Buddhist philosophy, similar in level to that of the Western Ph.D. This dream was deferred for him when the Chinese government intensified their policy of cultural genocide on occupied Tibet in 1959. The daily public humiliation and torture of monks by Chinese officials and the mass destruction of the monasteries and colleges made it impossible to continue the pursuit of this degree in Tibet. He was forced to return to his homeland of Ladakh in 1960.

Once back in the village of his birth, he studied tantric practices and joined the School of Buddhist Philosophy in Choglamsar where he studied for seven years. Due to the fact that the Buddhist tradition in Ladakh is dependent on the Tibetan lineage of teachers to transmit and bestow higher Buddhist degrees, it was necessary for him to leave Ladakh again in 1970 in pursuit of the Geshe training.

This time he went to Varanasi, India, where many high lamas in exile had resettled and built new monastic colleges. There he received his Shastri degree, the equivalent of a bachelors. Afterwards, he felt a responsibility to return to Stok and contribute to his community through teaching.

From 1974-1978 he taught high school in Ladakh. Then he met with a special invitation to come to the United States and teach at the first Tibetan Buddhist learning center in America, Labsum Shedrub Ling, in Washington, New Jersey. He went in hopes of learning English and completing his Geshe degree studies. He accomplished both, and in 1984 he returned to the Drepung Monastery for commencement.

Since that time Khen Rinpoche Tsetan has been living and teaching in the United States from October to June and returning to Ladakh during the summer months to oversee activities at the Siddhartha School/Choskor Stok school he founded in 1996. While in the States, he has divided his time between Maine and New York City with additional teaching trips to Amhurst, MA, and other areas of the U.S.  His association with the Manjushri Center in Amherst has provided him with extensive teaching positions and lecturing opportunities at a number of schools including Smith, Bowdoin, Amherst, Hampshire, Drew, Maine College of Art, Bangor Theological Seminary, Phillips Exeter Academy, Deerfield Academy, and others.

In 1996 shortly after founding the Siddhartha School in Stok, His Holiness the Dalai Lama, appointed then Geshe Tsetan to be the Abbot of the new Tashi Lhunpo Monastery in India. This was a great honor for him, and one that was humbly set aside, so that he could devote himself completely to the Siddhartha School. The Dalai Lama gave his blessings and support.

However, in 2005 H.H. the Dalai Lama again asked Geshe Tsetan to accept the Abbot position. In July 2005 Geshe Tsetan was installed as Khenchen, or head Abbot, of the Tashi Lhunpo Monastery in Bylakuppe, in southern India.

His title became Khen Rinpoche Geshe Kachen Lobzang Tsetan, and he has assumed his new responsibilities, over-seeing the Tashi Lhunpo Monastery in exile. Since summer 2005 he has worked ceaselessly to fulfill the charge of increasing the number of monks at Tashilhunpo, the poorest of the Tibetan monasteries in exile, and of raising the funds for their support.

Interview recorded 11/20/2010.

Audio and video below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

7 thoughts on “048. Khen Rinpoche Tsetan

  1. Rather disappointing interview.

    The interviewer seemed to have no clue of the different Buddha paths and how they use different appraoches let alone the one that Khen Rinpoche Tsetan was practicing! Consequently there are lots of off-center probing questions about the historical (Shakyamuni) Buddha rather than the lineage of Buddhas that this RInpoche represents! The constant repeating of TM teacher one-liners like ‘yes, but do you have a practice linked to that?’ could have been avoided if the interviewer would simply have taken some time to prep himself better.

    Khen Rinpoche Tsetan’s comment that no, ‘all wasn’t “illusion”‘ but instead was merely like an illusion seemed lost on Mr. Archer. To give illusion reality effectively absolutizes it. This was an important point since therefore many of his previous interviewees were holding false Views about reality and ergo, weren’t all that enlightened after all.

    I think an important thing in an interview is for the interviewer to get out of his own way. Unfortunately in this case, the interviewer seems over-burdened with his neo-advaita baggage, lenses and beliefs in pop enlightenment, so much so that even had he prepared better, these conditionings would have been limiting to his ability to ask helpful or appropriate questions.

  2. “…many of his previous interviewees were holding false Views about reality and ergo, weren’t all that enlightened after all.”

    Hmm! Let’s see.

    Person A holds “false Views about reality and ego”, and therefore appears unenlightened to me.

    But I resonate with B’s views re. reality and ego, so he/she is must be enlightened.

    That makes me the determinator of who’s enlightened and who’s not, does it not?

    No thanks.

  3. From Dana Sawyer, who helped translate and clarify during the interview:

    In terms of “getting out of his own light,” he ought to try it sometime. I disagree with pretty much everything he says. First, the entry point for your short interviews is to discuss “enlightenment” as a very broad category relative to people’s direct experience, and you did a good job of staying on track with that. You weren’t interviewing Khen Rinpoche about his specific lineage or trying to suss out the differences between the various traditions (Buddhist or otherwise) that hold an enlightenment ideal, so how could you have failed at that? Second, Shankara claimed that all perception is illusion and therefore he absolutized it, but many Advaitins have disagreed with him. Related to this, Advaitins in general believe that one may hold false views AND still be enlightened, since false views relate to concepts and enlightenment does not. Third, he claims your addiction to Neo-Advaita kept you from asking appropriate questions; if you were trying to pin down details about Tantric Buddhism I might agree, but since you weren’t, I don’t. Relative to the focus of your interview, and the purpose of the interviews in general, you did a great job.

  4. Oh God another TM teacher!

    I guess you can take the TM teacher out of the org. but you can’t take the TM teacher out of the boy. Oy!

    One wonders how many of the interviewees Prof. Sawyer has even listened to!

    I don’t see realizers like Ramana or Nisargadatta spouting nonsense experiential crap like some of these “enlightened ones”, which is not to say they cannot make mistakes. They do however speak with a certain authenticity of experience which is missing in more confused claimants. YMMV.

  5. True. I don’t select guests for this show on the criterion that they have reached the pinnacle of spiritual evolution. There are many degrees of awakening, and Ramana and Nisargadatta were professors emeritus. Most of us are in high school, college, or graduate school. If you have a chance, listen to the Tim Conway interview or see http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/neo-advaita.html. BTW, TM results in a genuine awakening for many, and has been a great starter technique for others. (I’m no longer in the TMO.)

  6. Hey Rick, This one was really interesting. I enjoyed this fellow! Thanks for another great interview. I don’t get on here enough…

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