347. Ganga Mira

Ganga MiraGeneviève De Coux was born in 1947 in Namur, Belgium during her parents’ holidays. The family lived in the Belgian Congo. Geneviève and her brother enjoyed an idyllic childhood until 1960, the year of the Congo’s independence. The family emigrated to Belgium.

Their paradise was lost. Geneviève found herself in Brussels, this radical change of scenery stoked the fire of her ontological search and she found refuge in art. In 1968 during her second year at the university while studying her philosophy paper, she stumbled upon a saying of Socrates which hit her straight in the heart: “Know thyself”! Realising that this was precisely what she had always been looking for, she instantly dropped her studies and set out for India by road in search of a living Socrates or Buddha.

On reaching the Himalayan foot-hills, she led a meditative and ascetic life by the Ganges in Rishikesh, waiting to meet her master. The locals called her Mira because of her devoted renunciation. At the end of 1968, in circumstances well worthy of Indian mythology, she met a man with whom she had an awakening experience. He left the following day without Mira knowing anything about him, neither his name nor his address. The one certainty was that finally she had found her master. To give herself the best chance of seeing him again, she decided to live at the exact spot of their meeting. For eight months she waited for him and meditated under a little tree on the banks of the Ganga river.

One day, her master, H.W.L.Poonja, a disciple of Ramana Maharishi, came back for her. She became his disciple and wife and started to travel with him. In 1971, H.W.L Poonja was invited to give Satsang in Europe and Mira accompanied him. Their daughter Mukti was born in 1972 and the little family went on travelling the world. For the education of her daughter Mira returned to Belgium. In 1990, H.W.L Poonja, also called Papaji, settled permanently in Lucknow where he gave Satsang every day until he passed away in 1997.

In 1998, Mira was invited to give satsang, which she continues giving to this day all over the world. She decided to call herself Ganga. In 2004 Ganga Mira moved to Portugal. She lives near the wild ocean of the Algarve with her daughter Mukti and her grand-children, Arun and Satya, and gives satsang four times a week.

Website: gangamirasatsang.com

Transcript of this interview

Interview conducted 5/21/2016

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump and Ganga Meera’s Background
  • 00:03:27 – The Fascinating Journey to India
  • 00:06:40 – Living Under the Tree
  • 00:09:23 – The Power of Meeting the Master
  • 00:12:41 – Increasing the Intensity of the Fire
  • 00:17:07 – Remaining Connected to Papaji
  • 00:20:24 – The Shift from Seeking to Adventure
  • 00:24:10 – The Relationship between Awakening and Thoughtlessness
  • 00:28:01 – The Disappearance of the Concept “I am real”
  • 00:32:04 – The Essence of Satsang
  • 00:35:46 – The Mechanics of Satsang
  • 00:39:42 – Falling in love with liberation
  • 00:43:07 – Probing the Power of YouTube
  • 00:46:49 – The Meaning of “Just Keep Quiet”
  • 00:50:33 – The Concept of Enlightenment versus the Real Enlightenment
  • 00:54:15 – The Dangers of Comparison
  • 00:57:20 – Everything is Perfect
  • 00:59:47 – The State of Seeking and the Purpose of Satsang
  • 01:02:48 – The Role of Devotion in Spirituality
  • 01:06:03 – Stages of Spiritual Development
  • 01:09:25 – The Teaching and Non-Teaching Sages
  • 01:12:57 – Awakening in Different Temperaments
  • 01:16:16 – The Illusion of Sattva and the Importance of Satsang
  • 01:18:43 – The Concept of Awakening from Extreme Suffering
  • 01:21:50 – The Absence of Separation
  • 01:24:49 – Satsang in Portugal
  • 01:28:24 – Misunderstandings and Compassion
  • 01:32:04 – Beyond the Doer
  • 01:35:31 – Demystifying the Sense of “I”
  • 01:39:28 – The Power of Pointers and Indications
  • 01:42:23 – Various Announcements

229. Neelam, 2nd Interview

NeelamNeelam is a direct disciple of H. W. L. Poonja (Papaji), whose teacher was Sri Ramana Maharshi. Her unequivocal commitment to Truth helps us turn inward and release underlying patterns of conditioning which block the recognition of our True Nature. With the utmost tenderness while helping us to address all aspects of daily living, including past conditioning and trauma, she invites us into the same recognition of Truth that her teacher, Papaji, transmitted to her.

Neelam’s website

Transcript of this interview

Interview recorded 5/3/2014

Her first Interview here

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction and Background
  • 00:04:39 – Identity and Presence
  • 00:08:59 – The Continuum of Presence
  • 00:13:10 – The Experience of Consciousness
  • 00:17:13 – The Ground of Knowing
  • 00:21:14 – The Embodiment of Knowing
  • 00:25:48 – Awakening vs Enlightenment
  • 00:30:25 – The Role of Knowledge in Teaching and Living
  • 00:34:20 – The Intelligence of Presence and Surrender
  • 00:38:42 – Embracing Everything as Is
  • 00:43:17 – Recognizing the Ground of Experience
  • 00:47:14 – The Effect of Climate Change on Human Consciousness
  • 00:50:21 – The True Nature of Being and Evolution
  • 00:53:41 – Dualistic Perspectives and the Arising Universe
  • 00:56:51 – The Tendency to Postpone Being Present
  • 01:00:22 – Recogition of Tendencies and Un-reinforcing Them
  • 01:03:29 – Managing Anger Through Self-Awareness
  • 01:06:45 – The Importance of Being Present
  • 01:10:06 – Authenticity and Congruence
  • 01:13:19 – Seeking Congruence within and without
  • 01:16:31 – Vigilance and the Escape of Vasanas
  • 01:19:49 – Relationship as a Path to Freedom
  • 01:23:02 – Unresolved past and relationships
  • 01:26:14 – The Resonance of Change
  • 01:29:13 – Life after Addiction
  • 01:32:27 – Strengthening our Capacity for Change
  • 01:35:26 – Deepening into Presence
  • 01:38:39 – Seeing Deeply into Students’ Makeup
  • 01:41:36 – Inspiration and the Capacity to Be Here
  • 01:44:49 – Concluding Remarks
  • 01:47:43 – Positive Review and Appreciation

197. David Godman

David GodmanDavid Godman has lived in India since 1976, mostly in Tiruvannamalai, Tamil Nadu. He spent his time there studying and practicing the teachings of Sri Ramana Maharshi. His anthology of Ramana Maharshi’s teachings, Be As You Are, is probably the most widely read book on Sri Ramana’s teachings. During his fourteen-year stay at Ramanasramam (1978-92), he managed the ashram’s library, cataloged its archives, and recorded the stories and experiences of devotees who had had direct contact with Sri Ramana.

David is the authorized biographer of two devotees of Sri Ramana Maharshi (Lakshmana Swamy and Papaji) who realized the Self in Sri Ramana’s presence and who later went on to become gurus themselves.

He has written and published several other books that contain first-person accounts of devotees who moved closely with Sri Ramana Maharshi and who were transformed by his power and presence.

In collaboration with two Tamil scholars, T. V. Venkatasubramanian and Robert Butler, he translated and edited several Tamil texts including two authoritative collections of Ramana Maharshi’s teachings that were originally recorded in Tamil verse. The three of them joined forces to bring out David’s most recent book, Sorupa Saram, a translation of a poem in which a 15th-century Tamil saint and Guru, Sorupananda, speaks authoritatively of his experience of the Self.

In the 1970s David frequented Nisargadatta Maharaj’s satsangs in Mumbai. In the 1980s he was a regular visitor to the ashram of Lakshmana Swamy and Saradamma in Andhra Pradesh. When they moved to Tiruvannamalai in the early 1990s, he helped them to establish and landscape their new property at the foot of Arunachala, the holy mountain where Sri Ramana Maharshi spent all his adult life. For four years in the 1990s, he lived with Papaji in Lucknow and ended up writing or editing five books about him.

In recent years he has written several long articles on Tamil saints, particularly those whose lives and works were often cited by Sri Ramana Maharshi. He is also engaged in a book-length project to bring out the biography and poetry of Guhai Namasivaya, a 16th century Tamil saint who lived on Arunachala and wrote extensively about its power and greatness.

David Godman is married to Miri Albahari, a philosophy lecturer who teaches in Perth, Australia. He is based in India, but nowadays spends part of the year with Miri in Australia.

Books:

Discussion of this interview in the Batgap Community Facebook Group

Second BatGap interview with David.

Interview recorded October 12, 2013.

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction of Buddha at the Gas Station
  • 00:04:19 – The importance of personal experience
  • 00:08:04 – The ardent desire to pursue Lord Krishna
  • 00:11:30 – Exploring the potential of Ramana’s existence
  • 00:15:38 – The importance of not giving up on work and family
  • 00:19:44 – A long road.
  • 00:23:57 – “Real meditation”
  • 00:27:53 – Don’t expect one person to do someone else’s job, it won’t happen.
  • 00:31:16 – The self that fulfills its mission
  • 00:35:27 – The nature of happiness and self-exploration
  • 00:39:55 – Obsessed with seeing visions of God
  • 00:43:56 – His Topic: Qualifications to Become a Guru
  • 00:47:53 – Definition of Guru
  • 00:51:55 – The natural state of Ramana
  • 00:58:08 – The Role of a True Guru
  • 00:59:58 – The issue of high standards of enlightened beings and direct lineage
  • 01:04:02 – Rick and David’s discussion
  • 01:08:28 – Behavior rooted in the Self
  • 01:12:45 – Addiction beyond the body
  • 01:16:55 – Differentiating Habits: Bandha and Bhoga
  • 01:21:01 – Story: Judgment and characterization of truly enlightened people
  • 01:25:32 – Your uncle and enlightenment
  • 01:30:10 – Fear strikes.
  • 01:34:41 – The attraction of Arunachal Hills
  • 01:38:39 – How to personify absolute truth
  • 01:42:34 – Explanation of heart and “heart”
  • 01:46:45 – To function in this world
  • 01:50:57 – A character in a dream world
  • 01:55:29 – The relationship between physics and consciousness
  • 01:59:45 – Creation, that’s what Ramana means.
  • 02:03:14 – Pop-ups and donation windows