615. Jeff Vander Clute

Jeff Vander CluteJeff Vander Clute is a spiritual coach and mentor, and an adviser to love-based businesses and organizations. He is committed to realizing a healed and transformed world through nondual awakening to and as the source of life.

Guided by deep listening and a sensitivity to Truth, Jeff helps people to navigate the complexity of these times and discover awakened pathways and possibilities. Every conversation unfolds in a field of loving presence that accelerates spiritual development and the flowering of one’s gifts – in service and in joy.

Those who are drawn to this work are committed to peace, unity, and enlightenment, and to sharing their gifts as an act of devotion. Clients include:

  • Professionals bringing spiritual insights into their work
  • Visionaries and change agents
  • Leaders in social transformation and humanitarian aid
  • Artists and authors
  • Executives transforming their businesses and industries
  • Technologists addressing the challenges of humanity
  • Healers of the body, mind, and soul

Jeff co-founded Enlightening Journeys and Expeditions and Sourcing The Way, and he is a member of the Evolutionary Leaders, the Global Compassion Council of Charter for Compassion International, and the Association for Spiritual Integrity. He serves on the board of directors for Alliance for the Earth and Garden of Light, and was previously the board chair of the Source of Synergy Foundation.

Jeff graduated summa cum laude with a degree in Mathematics from Williams College in 1995. Subsequently, he went on to help build or co-found a number of ventures, including a top-10 Internet service, a pioneering social media company, a consulting enterprise that serves awakened and awakening businesses, and several companies that are working to regenerate nature and uplift communities.

Website: jeffvanderclute.com

Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group.

Transcript of this interview.

Interview recorded September 12, 2021.

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
  • 00:05:27 – Flowing in Conscious Movement
  • 00:10:04 – Living in Accord with the Yes and No
  • 00:14:51 – Trusting and Following Wisdom in India
  • 00:19:45 – The Lamp at the Door and Bi-Directional Illumination
  • 00:24:39 – Experiencing the Multilevel Journey
  • 00:30:06 – The Healing Power of Meditation
  • 00:35:00 – Grounding in Soul Energy Systems
  • 00:39:33 – The Power of Collective Consciousness
  • 00:44:27 – Thriving on Restoring and Regenerating Nature
  • 00:49:10 – The Wisdom of Crowds and Collective Conversation
  • 00:53:42 – Transitioning to an Enlightened Society
  • 00:58:44 – Coherence in Physics and Biology
  • 01:03:35 – The Will to Use Technology: A Collective Effort
  • 01:08:32 – The Neo-Advaita Phase
  • 01:13:09 – The Shift from Intellect to Intuition
  • 01:17:47 – Embracing the Whole: Integrating Primitive and Enlightened Civilizations
  • 01:22:47 – Exploring Subjectivity and Consciousness
  • 01:27:39 – A Hybrid of Subjective and Objective Experiences
  • 01:32:29 – Perceiving Other Civilizations
  • 01:37:06 – Exploring Consciousness and Other Beings
  • 01:41:52 – Exploring the Territory by Owning the Fort
  • 01:46:30 – Expanding Perceptual Abilities
  • 01:51:22 – The Presence of God in Everything
  • 01:56:22 – The Infinity and Complexity of the Universe
  • 02:01:12 – Exploring Scientific and Spiritual Paradigms
  • 02:05:51 – Living as if the End is Near
  • 02:10:53 – Spiritual Integrity and Collective Evolution
  • 02:15:30 – Becoming a Spiritually Awakened Collective
  • 02:20:01 – Homecoming: A Seven-week Adventure of Awakening

598. Gautam Sachdeva

Gautam SachdevaBorn and brought up in Mumbai, Gautam faced one challenge after another fairly early in life. He remarks, “As a result, I grew up before my time.” Having to cope with the loss of his father at the young age of 14 gave rise to questions related to death, insecurity, and survival, which would affect most children faced with a similar loss.

Gautam’s fondest memories are of the times spent with his parents on weekend trips to the shrine of Sai Baba at Shirdi, and on annual holidays when the family went to Kashmir. His father had built a prospering advertising business, which after his father’s demise, had continued to grow and progress under the watchful eye of his mother. Gautam started attending office while he was still in college and, three years later, took over the reins of the business.

Running the business and dealing with a staff of thirty who were all much older than him taught him about building relationships with people – whether they were CEOs of multi-national corporations, suppliers, or his colleagues at work. Gradually, he was able to bring the company out of the red – bad debts that had been incurred over the years – and back into the black.

At the turn of the millennium (December 1999), Gautam’s inherent but latent spiritual inclination surfaced through a series of synchronistic events. Following his mother’s example, he started attending a course in Brahma Vidya (Knowledge of Brahman) based on a system of ancient Tibetan breathing exercises. This course was conducted by his mother’s guru, Justice Dudhat of the High Court of Mumbai.

Around this time, Gautam diversified into publishing by setting up Yogi Impressions, primarily to publish his mother Santosh’s book on her spiritual awakening. Santosh Ma’s journey of awakening spanned three years, from 1996 to 1999. Although there was no desire or ambition to publish any other book besides this one, destiny had charted a new course for him, as he was soon to discover.

As a single parent, Santosh played the role of both mother and father during Gautam’s as well as his sisters’ growing up years. This role took on another dimension after her spiritual awakening when aspirants started visiting her for guidance on the path of Kundalini and meditation. By now, Gautam was closely working with her on other books that were to follow as well as witnessing, at close quarters, her interactions with aspirants. He imbibed a lot by just being in her presence. He is often asked what it is like to live under the same roof with a personality such as his mother. His sister Shibani sums it up by saying, “Never once did our mother utter the word ‘No’ to us.”

In November 1999, Gautam met Eckhart Tolle, the best-selling spiritual author of The Power of Now, in Hong Kong, while holidaying with his sister Nikki who worked there at the time. He had several interactions with this spiritual teacher over the next few years, courtesy of Nikki and her friends’ proximity to Eckhart, which led to his publishing company bringing out the Indian edition of The Power of Now. Eckhart had said that publishing would be the start of ‘an adventure’ for Gautam, and so it turned out to be.

It was at Nikki’s urging that Gautam met the Advaita sage, Ramesh Balsekar, in February 2000. Some of her friends were flying down from a distant country just to meet this modern sage who lived a mere 20-minute drive away from Gautam’s home. Having no conscious interest in the subject, he tagged along one Sunday morning to Ramesh’s residence in Mumbai. On his next visit when Ramesh saw him, he asked Gautam: “Isn’t this the second consecutive Sunday you have come? Be careful young man… this will become your Sunday church!” Little then did he know that he would keep visiting Ramesh over the next nine years to attend his satsangs.

In hindsight, Gautam says that these three events: the culmination of his mother’s awakening, meeting Eckhart Tolle as well as Ramesh Balsekar, all in a span of a few months between November 1999 and February 2000, were to shape the course of his life’s journey thereon. As he was not familiar with their teachings at the time and was graced by directly being in their presence, he refers to this period as ‘being introduced to the presence of Presence.’

Ramesh’s teaching was a validation of Gautam’s life experiences. It became evident that Ramesh was more than a friend, philosopher, father-figure, and mentor – he was the Guru he had been unconsciously seeking. Sitting with Ramesh, Gautam says he got answers ‘to questions he never asked’. This was reflected in Ramesh’s words (from the Foreword to Gautam’s second book The Buddha’s Sword, based on Ramesh’s teaching): “During the early years when Gautam visited me every Sunday morning, I noticed the keen interest he showed in the subject and I soon came to the conclusion that ‘awakening’ had taken place, and that he was on his way to ‘deliverance’ – awakening functioning in daily living.”

During these years, Gautam worked closely with Ramesh assisting him with the editing and publishing of some of his books. In later years, Ramesh encouraged Gautam to write especially after reading an article Gautam had written for India’s leading spiritual magazine on the occasion of Ramesh’s 90th birthday in 2007. It was this gentle nudge that eventually led to Gautam writing his first book based on Ramesh’s teaching – Pointers from Ramesh Balsekar.

Since then, Gautam has authored five more books. He is quite perplexed himself at this ‘happening’ as he had no intention of becoming a writer. “At least one doesn’t have to look hard for a publisher,” he adds with a smile. His books have been translated into Russian, German, Spanish, Hindi, and Marathi.

Gautam has an active work-life that includes overseeing the publishing business. He lives and works in South Mumbai. Depending on Gautam’s schedule, meetings take place on some Sunday mornings at his residence in South Mumbai. Talks are being regularly live-streamed on Zoom as well as YouTube.

Some of the points discussed in this interview.

  • Gautam’s background
  • Relationship with Eckhart Tolle and then Ramesh Balsekar.
  • Thoughts on reincarnation.
  • The quest for peace of mind and ultimately, happiness.
  • Learning to accept the will of “the source”.
  • You are an instrument of God, having been shaped by the Divine.
  • Nisargadatta on the distinction between consciousness and That which is prior to consciousness.
  • Not getting lost in concepts and imaginings.
  • The evolutionary value of challenges.
  • The most reliable spiritual awakenings are often the least spectacular – “The kingdom of heaven sneaks up like a thief in the night”.
  • You have control over action alone, never its fruits. Ultimately, there is no free will, but we perceive ourselves as having it and should act accordingly.
  • Witnessing the flow of life – such a glorious way of being.
  • A discussion of kundalini.
  • Equanimity as a measure of spiritual advancement.
  • Nisargadatta on the importance of meditation and spiritual practice.
  • Ramana Maharshi on how to recognize a sage: the peace and humility he radiates.
  • Seeing God in everything develops compassion for all beings.
  • The “I am” is revealed when the thinking mind dissolves.
  • Gross, subtle, and transcendent levels of speech.
  • The test of any teaching is its impact on daily living, especially the unexpected.
  • The influence of individual spiritual development on the world.
  • Discussion on death. Fear of death is actually fear of ego death. “Dying before you die” eliminates the fear of death.
  • Accepting that everyone acts according to their conditioning transforms relationships.
  • A moment of silence ends the interview.

Website: gautamsachdeva.com

Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group.

Transcript of this interview.

Interview recorded May 15, 2021.

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

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567. Terrence Stephens

Terrence StephensTerrence is an Australian born teacher and guide of Non-Duality. Like us all, Terrence had his own personal back ‘story’ (a ‘me’) which included sexual abuse as a child, living in a dysfunctional and broken family followed by drug addiction, divorce, depression, and anxiety with suicidal thoughts. He has also been a student and chief instructor in the art of Kung Fu for most of his life, a professional singer-songwriter-musician, and has also run several successful companies as a director.

During his journey, he consulted various psychologists and therapists and pursued a variety of spiritual paths and self-help groups.

Nothing seemed to relieve the deep-seated experience of separation and isolation. Then one day in 1986 he chanced to meet Sailor Bob Adamson who had settled in Melbourne following his 12 months with Nisargadatta Maharaj in Bombay.

Here, Terrence gained an intellectual understanding of Non-Duality. However, it was many years later that his sense of self (me) finally collapsed.

What resulted was no more searching, no wanting, and no desires, and a state of being carefree. It was in this state of collapse that his true nature was revealed; awakening from the dreamed fictitious personal character.

Since then Terrence has been pointing the way. Profoundly direct and yet delivered with compassion, warmth, and fun!

Website: terrencestephens.com.au

Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group.

Transcript of this interview.

Interview recorded September 5, 2020.

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
  • 00:04:04 – Meeting Sailor Bob Adamson in Melbourne
  • 00:08:19 – The Illusion of Personal Consciousness
  • 00:12:32 – Consciousness and Awareness
  • 00:17:05 – The Primary Love of Being
  • 00:21:12 – The Nature of Thought and Duality
  • 00:25:19 – The Paradoxical Perception of Self
  • 00:30:00 – The Illusion of a Separate Self
  • 00:34:39 – The Mind’s Natural Tendency for Seeking
  • 00:39:01 – The Bursting Forth of Creativity
  • 00:43:03 – The Appearance of Mind
  • 00:47:23 – The Three Levels of Enlightenment
  • 00:51:25 – Speaking to the Dream Character
  • 00:55:20 – The Dream Character and Awakening
  • 00:59:34 – Unconditional Love and Conditional Love
  • 01:03:32 – Direct Experience of Consciousness
  • 01:08:16 – The Dark Night of the Soul
  • 01:12:51 – Absolute Surrender
  • 01:17:12 – A Stirring of the Mind
  • 01:21:13 – A Shift in Perspective
  • 01:25:49 – Reconciliation with the Past
  • 01:29:47 – Becoming Carefree
  • 01:33:28 – Being Present in Awakening
  • 01:37:31 – Being Still and Observing
  • 01:41:08 – The Split of “I Am”
  • 01:45:21 – The Profound Effect of Proximity
  • 01:49:16 – The Nature of Consciousness and Awareness
  • 01:53:07 – The Intelligence of Light
  • 01:56:45 – The belief in past lives and memories
  • 02:00:47 – The mysteries of the universe and personal perspectives
  • 02:04:43 – Farewell and outro