547. Bayo Akomolafe

Bayo AkomolafeBayo Akomolafe (Ph.D.) considers his most sacred work to be learning how to be with his daughter and son, Alethea Aanya, and Kyah Jayden – and their mother, his wife, and “life-nectar”, Ijeoma. “To learn the importance of insignificance” is the way he frames a desire to reacquaint himself with a world that is irretrievably entangled, preposterously alive, and completely partial.

Bayo was born in 1983 into a Christian home, and to Yoruba parents in western Nigeria. Losing his diplomat father to a sudden heart complication, Bayo became a reclusive teenager, seeking to get to the “heart of the matter” as a response to his painful loss. He sought to apply himself to the extremes of his social conditioning, his faith, and his eventual training as a clinical psychologist – only to find that something else beyond articulation was tugging at his sleeves, wanting to be noticed. After meeting with traditional healers as part of his quest to understand trauma, mental wellbeing, and healing in new ways, his deep questions and concerns for decolonized landscapes congealed into a life devoted to exploring the nuances of a “magical” world “too promiscuous to fit neatly into our fondest notions of it.”

A fugitive to manicured disciplinarity in the academe, speaker, and proud diaper-changer, Bayo leads an earth-wide organization (The Emergence Network) as its Chief Curator and Director. The organization is set up for the re-calibration of our ability to respond to civilizational crisis – a project framed within a feminist ethos and inspired by indigenous cosmologies. He considers this a shared art – exploring the edges of the intelligible, dancing with posthumanist ideas, dabbling in the mysteries of quantum mechanics and the liberating sermon of an ecofeminism text, and talking with others about how to host a festival in Brazil – and part of his inner struggle to regain a sense of rootedness to his community. He also hosts a course (We Will Dance with Mountains) among other offerings.

In short, Bayo has given up his longing for the “end-time” and is learning to live in the “mean time”. In the middle, where we must live with confusion and make do with partial answers. His greatest vocation is, however, learning to be a satellite orbiting his greatest gift, his goddess Ijeoma, and knowing the blessings of her gravity.

Bayo is visiting professor at Middlebury College, Vermont, and has taught in universities around the world (including Sonoma State University California, Simon Frasier University Vancouver, Schumacher College Devon, Harvard University, and Covenant University Nigeria – among others). He is a consultant with UNESCO, leading efforts for the Imagining Africa’s Future (IAF) project. He speaks and teaches about his experiences around the world, and then returns to his adopted home in Chennai, India – “where the occasional whiff of cow dung dancing in the air is another invitation to explore the vitality of a world that is never still and always surprising.”

Bayo has authored two books, ‘We Will Tell Our Own Story!: The Lions of Africa Speak!’ and ‘These Wilds Beyond Our Fences: Letters to My Daughter on Humanity’s Search for Home’, and has penned forewords for many others.

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Transcript of this interview

Interview recorded April 25, 2020

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
  • 00:04:46 – The Times Are Urgent, Let Us Slow Down
  • 00:08:42 – Slowing Down in Times of Urgency
  • 00:12:36 – The Challenge of Thinking in Different Terms
  • 00:16:10 – The Balance of Preciseness and Unboundedness
  • 00:20:51 – Dancing with the Masquerade: Rediscovering Core Values
  • 00:25:50 – The Evolution and Devolution of Ideas
  • 00:29:05 – The complexity of the universe and the pieces of the puzzle
  • 00:33:12 – Devolving and the Emerging Universe
  • 00:37:16 – The All-Pervading Intelligence of God
  • 00:41:19 – The Excess of Meaninglessness
  • 00:44:27 – The Future as Creator
  • 00:48:10 – The Beauty of Contrast and Difference
  • 00:52:44 – Blind men feeling the elephant
  • 00:56:28 – Embracing the Impermanence of Truth
  • 01:00:57 – The Influence of Environment on Judicial Decisions
  • 01:05:14 – The Color of a Triangle
  • 01:09:23 – Panpsychism and Panentheism
  • 01:13:40 – Variations of Non-Dualism and Multiple New Materialisms
  • 01:17:15 – The Ongoingness of Materializations
  • 01:20:59 – The Absurdity of Non-Dualism and Anticipation
  • 01:24:29 – Futures Literacy: Noticing and Shifting Perspectives
  • 01:28:08 – Post Activism: Slowing Down to Meet Other Bodies and Other Agencies
  • 01:32:04 – The Recycling Ethics and Environmental Impact
  • 01:35:24 – Imagining a More Beautiful World
  • 01:38:58 – Aligning with the Flow of the Universe
  • 01:43:29 – The Newtonian-Cartesian Paradigm and Harmony vs Disruption
  • 01:48:07 – Understanding the Fundamentals of Creation and Consciousness
  • 01:52:57 – The Story of the Trickster Tortoise
  • 01:56:09 – The Tortoise and the Hidden Wisdom
  • 01:59:34 – Reflections on the Current Time

537. Roger Walsh

Roger WalshRoger Walsh MD., Ph.D. DHL graduated from Queensland University with degrees in psychology, physiology, neuroscience, and medicine, came to the United States as a Fulbright scholar, and is currently a professor of psychiatry, philosophy, anthropology, and religious studies at the University of California. His research interests include psychological health and wellbeing, virtues such as love and wisdom, practices such as meditation that foster them, and the psychological roots of our current social and global challenges.

Roger’s books include Paths Beyond Ego, The World of Shamanism, and Essential Spirituality: The 7 Central Practices to Awaken Heart and Mind, and he recently edited the modestly titled volume, The World’s Great Wisdom. His research and writings have received over twenty national and international awards. He was formerly a circus acrobat, held world records in trampolining and high diving, and recently graduated from the San Francisco Comedy College and had an extremely brief and unsuccessful career as a standup comedian.

For more information, see drrogerwalsh.com

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Transcript of this interview

Interview recorded February 15, 2020.

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction: Buddha at the Gas Pump
  • 00:04:25 – A Shocking Revelation about Water
  • 00:08:32 – The Hidden Disciplines of Religion
  • 00:13:19 – Multiple Perspectives on Realization and Developmental Stages
  • 00:18:06 – Psychological Maturity and Spiritual Development
  • 00:22:12 – The Enlightenment and the Awakening to Pure Consciousness
  • 00:26:16 – The Limitations of Scientists and the Recognition of Pure Consciousness
  • 00:31:02 – Consciousness awakening through the nervous system
  • 00:34:19 – The Universe Becoming Conscious
  • 00:39:07 – Inherent growth dynamic in the psyche
  • 00:43:30 – The Transition to Post-Conventional Thinking
  • 00:47:33 – The Wisdom of Spiritual Practice
  • 00:51:30 – The Spiritual Gravity that Draws the Mind Within
  • 00:55:42 – Different Stages Reflecting Different Worldviews and Values
  • 01:00:23 – The Developmental Stages of Consciousness and Psychology
  • 01:04:38 – The Marrying of Technology and Spirituality
  • 01:09:31 – The Importance of Ethics in Spiritual Practice
  • 01:13:52 – The Dangers of the “Ends Justify the Means” Mentality
  • 01:17:21 – The Story of Narada and Maya
  • 01:21:01 – Motivation and Emotional Transformation
  • 01:25:14 – The Nature of Craving
  • 01:30:07 – The Dystopian Future of Addiction
  • 01:34:32 – The Race between Consciousness and Catastrophe
  • 01:38:40 – Surfing the Spiritual Wave
  • 01:42:53 – Mapping the Territory of Consciousness
  • 01:47:33 – Tapping into the Universal
  • 01:52:15 – Openness to Feedback and Understanding
  • 01:56:33 – Hanging Out with Kindred Souls
  • 02:00:07 – Practice and Transformation
  • 02:04:10 – Going Deeper into Ourselves and the World
  • 02:07:43 – A Conversation with an Expert

529. Mirabai Starr, 2nd Interview

Mirabai StarrMirabai Starr writes creative non-fiction and contemporary translations of sacred literature. She taught Philosophy and World Religions at the University of New Mexico-Taos for 20 years and now teaches and speaks internationally on contemplative practice and inter-spiritual dialog. A certified bereavement counselor, Mirabai helps mourners harness the transformational power of loss. She has received critical acclaim for her revolutionary new translations of the mystics:

She is the award-winning author of:

She lives with her extended family in the mountains of northern New Mexico.

Website: mirabaistarr.com

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Transcript of this interview

First BatGap interview with Mirabai.

Interview recorded October 28, 2019

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
  • 00:03:28 – Suppression of Women Mystics and the Rebalancing of Power
  • 00:07:10 – The Burial of Feminine Wisdom in Religion
  • 00:10:57 – The Dark Night of the Soul and Feminine Mysticism
  • 00:14:34 – The Blend of Mysticism and Activism
  • 00:18:39 – Finding Solace in Not Knowing
  • 00:22:38 – Teresa’s Second Conversion Experience
  • 00:25:56 – The Gaze of Unconditional Love
  • 00:29:17 – The Power of Spiritual Friendship
  • 00:31:49 – Mystics and Wisdom Beings
  • 00:34:32 – Non-duality and Surrender
  • 00:37:00 – Dissolving into Sweetness
  • 00:40:01 – Feminine Wisdom: Love and Embodiment in Spirituality
  • 00:43:09 – Harmonizing Devotion and Non-Duality
  • 00:45:24 – Devotion and Non-Dual Consciousness
  • 00:48:40 – Mirabai: A 16th century woman mystic
  • 00:50:44 – Krishna’s Love and Protection
  • 00:53:10 – The Life of Mirabai
  • 00:55:56 – The Birth of Mirabai and Spiritual Awakening
  • 00:58:46 – An Encounter with Anandamayi Ma
  • 01:01:29 – Ram Dass and Anandamayi Ma
  • 01:03:42 – Embracing Our True Selves
  • 01:06:18 – Redefining Masculine Dominance and the Rise of the Divine Feminine
  • 01:09:17 – The Reclamation of Mother Earth
  • 01:12:36 – The Power of the Feminine
  • 01:14:35 – The Dark Side of the Feminine
  • 01:17:02 – Dropping into the Fierce Feminine
  • 01:20:07 – Multiple Spiritual Belonging
  • 01:22:25 – Women Mystics: Sharing Stories of Awakening and Service
  • 01:25:13 – Finding Divinity in Everything
  • 01:27:10 – End of Video