117. Benjamin Smythe

Benjamin SmytheI thought I knew something.  It turns out I didn’t.  My heart explodes into pieces and they rain down everywhere I look.  It doesn’t feel as new agey as it sounds, and that ends up being such an incredible delight.  Nothing spiritual I have ever encountered has anything to do with the simple Wow I am talking about. It is this Mystery.  Wow!

Benjamin’s site: http://benjamintsmythe.com/

Interview recorded 3/31/2012

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

113 thoughts on “117. Benjamin Smythe

  1. Greese – You’re funny!! and if you’re game, you know you can fly down to Fiji with Bernie- for the low low price of only 10 grand (20 for couples) and romp to your heart’s content in the tantric playground…
    hmmm..most enlightening!!!..

  2. Heck, I’ll bet I can fly to Thailand and romp around in the tantric playgrounds for 1/15th of what ole Bernie’s offering.
    And walk away feeling just as spiritual, to boot.

  3. The nature of the deepening into Self is in seeing things as they really are – The deeper we go – the more Love reveals itself as the basis of everything which in turn allows greater access to Reality..One is no longer fooled by how things appear…we see beyond the words spoken to their silent depths..We know that all hearts beat as one – and that the same divinity lies behind each illusory persona no matter how much of the maya is still present..so true compassion arises….We stand in awe of what the universe shows us, and take no credit for, or pride in, any part of its manifestation.. so true humility arises…Most of all, we laugh with the laughers and cry with the criers living each moment in it’s wholeness – knowing without a shadow of a doubt, that all is well..

  4. Yes the same teacher manifesting as the One so that each ear could hear the teaching..

    No I haven’t heard of that exact term re-rooting but I get what you’re pointing to..the mind apparently returning…People have different takes on it..

    Wayne’s take on it was that it couldn’t have been a genuine awakening to begin with…He doesn’t even use the term awakening – only what he calls a ‘back and forth’ of the pendulum – knowing oneself and not knowing oneself – a fluctuation of consciousness along the spiritual highway – until the final blow of enlightenment is cast, upon which there is no return..a death experience if you will..
    I tend to agree with that assessment..

    From the yogic or Kundalini standpoint, some would say if re-rooting happens, the body is just not ready to hold the energy and after it arises and people get a glimpse of Reality, it retires back to the muldahara..

    Eli spoke to this in a recent interview that Snow posted on the comments page – that this apparent ‘losing it’ happens because people don’t realize that they have to do some work after the awakening – that it’s not just a matter of going to satsang -and getting more of the juice – but that the focus and willingness to look within at the conditioning etc need continue..

    I always think of the opening as a gift from Grace perhaps for time spent – and desire for truth -but then it’s up to the seeker to keep the vigil and keep surrendering all concepts and illusions..maintaining a willingness to see and not turn away – being true to what has been given – until the final unstruck sound of Silence is heard..

    You just touched upon why Neelam began her more intense courses in recent years..as did many other teachers..They used to just breeze into town every few months and people would get high and open -but then without follow up, many got lost..So she and others realized, myself included – that it’s important to stay with someone until they’re fully cooked..and independent of all teachers..

    One knows that for sure, only when all questions are answered from within – and clarity and wisdom and love has arisen -and one wants for nothing else but what is..

  5. Am sure Jill can answer this “re-rooting” phenomena much better than I can – but I can attest to this happening as I’m sure many can.

    Profound awakening experiences happen, and then are subsequently “remembered” (i.e. claimed by mind) and so are considered phenomenal – coming and then going. Even a felt-shift in which the “I” is awakened out of – and a seamless, wholeness is present, can seem to get re-rooted or overlayed… I think of it as a playing back and forth between the timeless and time. Until final rest in the timeless happens.

  6. Awakening experiences, however transitory, all say the divine is present. How wonderful and hopeful is that for all of us – awakened, awakening, or not?

  7. Love your answer Ising and love you- spoken perfectly from your own experience…and it’s true we shouldn’t minimize the awakenings or glimpses -always the Divine Presence in those..

    Chuckee -You’re right that no one knows for sure how this whole thing plays out but sometimes if you’ve met a lot of people as many of the teachers have over many years – you see some patterns and perhaps draw some conclusions..

    My own overall observation of friends, is that one can’t fall back if one stays true to themselves and to truth..stays open hearted and surrendered and is continually willing to see what might be standing in the way of full disclosure -and doesn’t try to use the awakening for one’s own gain..
    After the final death experience there is the impossibility of falling back speaking personally here….As Ramesh used to say, ‘at some point, dead is dead – and one can’t be deader.’…deepening yes – fluctuation no..

    Yes Neelam loves film as I do, perhaps because its fabric is so close to Reality…the old screen analogy..with all the characters in the play as mere projections onto it..something so true there..

  8. Benjamin will be holding two silent meditiation events, with opportunities for questions, in Asheville NC on May 11th and 12th. For more information you can contact me, or look for his events on the Asheville Sangha website.


  9. Hi Rick,
    I wanted to acknowledge your wonderful part in bringing Benjamin to my attention through your website. My daughter heard part of the interview and commented how she liked what she heard. So we ended up inviting Benjamin up to live with us for a week. We had a delightful visit and I am SO impressed with his generosity of spirit. I want to thank you Rick for all that you do. You have deeply touched my life and I have already witnessed the ripple effect out into my community. Much love and blessings.

  10. Most interesting interview. I really enjoyed Benjamin’s enthusiasm, spirit and passion.

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