127. Deepakbhai Desai

DeepakbhaiDeepakbhai Desai is the current representative of Akram Vignan, a direct path to Self-realization.

Born in Gujarat, India, Deepakbhai met Dada Bhagwan (the originator of Akram Vignan) at the age of 17, and attained Self-realization from him in the Gnan Vidhi ceremony. He credits these two events as the great turning points of his life.

Previously burdened by a shy and introverted nature, Deepakbhai became able to successfully complete his engineering studies and, over the coming decades, to build three successful engineering businesses.

Simultaneously, Deepakbhai was nurtured in further spiritual development by Dada Bhagwan, and Niruma Amin (Dada’s closest disciple). With all available free time, Deepakbhai attended satsangs (spiritual discourse), performed seva (selfless service), and engaged in continuous Self-introspection – devotedly seeking to understand the full dimension of Dada’s spiritual science.

In 1987, before Dada Bhagwan’s passing, Niruma and Deepakbhai were given the spiritual abilities to conduct satsangs and Gnan Vidhi ceremonies on Dada’s behalf. Together, they carried on Dada’s mission with tremendous harmony and spirit of oneness until Niruma’s sudden passing in 2006. Since then, Deepakbhai has officiated over a burgeoning spiritual community (Simandhar City, Gujarat, India), celibate male and female groups, teen and children’s programs, and ongoing world-wide satsang and Gnan Vidhi programs for seekers of Self-realization.

Deepakbhai is beloved by all who meet him, and is renowned both for his extraordinary levels of awareness and extreme humility.

His remarkable spiritual achievements are demonstrated in every instance of his selfless life.

For further information, and for Deepakbhai’s tour schedule, please visit: http://www.dadabhagwan.org/

All satsang and Gnan Vidhi programs are offered entirely free of cost.

Interview recorded 6/16/2012

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

105 thoughts on “127. Deepakbhai Desai

  1. Now one with it… Wow, this has been an entertaining couple of days reading the various posts and watching various interviews with people claiming to be “teachers” of one kind or another. After a few days reading this or that on here, I would like to make a few observations if I may. The first of which is, why bother talking about one’s “awakening” or any alleged knowledge that one “attains” as a result of such an experience? Wouldn’t an authentic “realization” ultimately make you realize your separate and shared humanity more deeply? Is so, wouldn’t that naturally inform your behavior in a way that would probably make you a more empathetic and compassionate person without the need for trying to convince others that your concepts are better than their concepts? Wouldn’t presence, love, and acceptance be enough? Look, it just appears to me that a whole lot of people on this forum are some real good bullshitters, playing a game of comparing “realizations” or “understanding” in an effort to be more advaitically correct than everyone else. Don’t get me wrong, there’s nothing wrong with that, everyone needs to hear some good bullshit every now again. It keeps you honest, ha! But sincerely, why bother? Why so much espousing of second-hand information in an attempt to make it appear to be authentically your own, or trying to “out-Advaita” others? I hear a whole of treatises from people on here that feel really hollow and inauthentic, and delivering it as if it’s indisputable fact. I mean, there’s nothing wrong with being human guys, just being an ordinary person living a beautifully ordinary life!

  2. Happy belated birthday Jill! As a native New Yorker, I hope you enjoyed a walk through Central Park or simply quietly enjoyed the amazing energy NYC provides.

  3. Thank you Paul – I had a sweet birthday with the kids..always a treat to spend time with them…We were planning on seeing the new Woody Allen movie but got lost in conversation and the Silence over a long lunch…Yes New York is all that and more…it’s Home..

  4. When I grew up in NYC, The Cloisters was my favorite spot to decompress and re-center myself.

    Not as big as Central Park, to be sure. But certainly quieter.

  5. Gosh Peter – didn’t realize there were so many New Yorkers on the site..or former ones…Loved loved loved The Cloisters growing up- almost reverential…a great place to appreciate the quiet..
    The Silence is everywhere here though, even in the noisiest part of town – underlying everything – it whispers to us, but it’s true, some places just embody it more than others..

  6. *has no qualms delving into tangents today*

    Three things I miss about NYC:

    1) the ability to go from Point A to Point B – Z… without a car;

    2) the ability to attend a variety of public lectures at Columbia, NYU, Fordham, and CCNY; and,

    3) Rockefeller Center during Christmas, with the scent of roasted chestnuts in the air.

  7. A big YES to all three – Part of the embodiment is evoking and remembering our childhood memories – ‘feeling’ them fully – even the not so nice ones – so they can be integrated into the whole….I can feel that NY is a part of you..

  8. It is a pleasure to be unaligned with your perspective on this particular issue, HS.

    BTW, did you form this perspective of yours partly from your experience as a parent?

    My parenting experience played a huge role in forming mine.

  9. Paul V, I’ll plead guilty to residing in my mind a bit much but is that less human than anything else? And I do think discussing the nature of reality helps to clarify or point to it. So I think its very worthwhile time spent. There’s about a million other things that can be characterized as human that I have no interest in. I think too, that there’s a time for reading books, digesting & discussing. Its part of the process. Granted some get “stuck” there for a while. But they’ll only be there as long as necessary.

  10. Well, I have kids and my own life experience and what I saw was that at certain points, experiences would enliven “prior” conditioning. We can certainly note that brain development gets to a certain point and the mind becomes more prominent. But 2 children with the same upbringing can respond quite differently to the same circumstance. And they can react way outside likely conditioning in some circumstances.

    From what I’ve seen, many of us carry shadows of our deep past, particularly the period during a rather precipitous drop in group consciousness awhile back. That has the effect of a prominent backstory or tone.

    Conditioning certainly plays a role, but its more an accessory role to a broader unfolding. Many of us here are in the last act (of this play) so the many threads are coming to resolution. As they say, we live in interesting times.

    And no, this isn’t something I’ve read.

  11. “I’m saying from the perspective of Consciousness, Grace decides when things begin to blossom and mature into Knowing. It doesn’t care if you had an extremely troubled youth, or hail from a long line of ascetic yogis. How can this be? Because Grace alone knows the readiness of a being.” – HS

    I gotta admit, HS, that my anthropomorphic meter comes alive when I read something like the above.

    Are you saying that Grace “decides” about certain things? And that it doesn’t “care” about some things while it “cares” about others? And that It “knows” when someone is ready?

    Those are all human attributes to me, and it appears that you may be assigning human attributes to Grace.

    Is that because you believe that Grace does indeed possess human attributes like deciding, caring, and knowing?


  12. Thanks HS for the well wishes.. love to you – I think you’re my long lost 3rd son…kindred spirits..BTW, I love dogs too..always felt unconditional love from them..

    As far as the human nature vs nurture debate as it relates to awakening, I think the Enneagram makes a huge contribution to that..It speaks to the idea that we come in to the world with certain blocks to awakening – usually one main one – such as anger or lust or sloth or envy or doubt etc etc which colors our field of perception..

    According to the ancient Sufis, the circumstances we are born into are perfect for evoking that block – ie., those that serve to arouse our anger or doubt etc..For instance – one who has the anger fixation will be born into a family where anger is the predominant issue…

    The game of life is to ultimately recognize, meet fully, and get beyond our principle fixation and it’s conditioned responses, in order to awaken..to see through the identification with who we are not to find the true Self that is lying in wait..That process is the spiritual journey..

    Grace, which is my term for unconditional Love, is the remedy for healing all of our misunderstandings and mis-perceptions born of our conditioning..

  13. “I think the Enneagram makes a huge contribution to that..It speaks to the idea that we come in to the world with certain blocks to awakening – usually one main one – such as anger or lust or sloth or envy or doubt etc etc which colors our field of perception.” – Jill

    Can you enlighten me, Jill, as to which potential block to awakening might give rise to a child being born under circumstances like this one:



  14. I hear you, HS. But my Q to Jill was a specific one.

    Jill posited that babies come into the world with certain blocks to awakening, and that they are born into circumstances where those blocks are given an opportunity to be handled.

    What possible block to awakening would give rise to a child being born in a living hell?

    If karma is the proposed answer, then I see very little difference between the belief system of karma and that of a Biblical god who assigns certain people to an eternal hell. In both cases, allegedly because of choices that were made in the past.

  15. It’s heartbreaking Peter – to think of a child in such dire circumstances – no getting around that..What’s true is that Grace or Love is not always easy on us..far from it… Often it rakes us over the coals..to bring us to our knees…It gives us what we need to evolve….No one would even be interested in awakening if it weren’t for having experienced suffering at some time in the past…

    Eckhart always says that ‘suffering is our greatest teacher’…I think we know this deep down – that all is happening as it should – even though I know, it’s so difficult to accept when we see a child or anyone for that matter, suffering, but particularly a child…That suffering child is us…

    I’ve never taken to the idea of karma even though on a certain level it’s true…but I never took to the concept because it had some idea of punishment contained within it…at least as it was presented..
    It seems that all our religions do – If we’re not good we’ll go to hell one way or the other..and if we’re suffering we’ve been bad….but the heart knows there is no sin except ignorance of Self..Once the Self is known and lived, which is the end game of human life, suffering and sin are no more..

    If we try to reconcile the suffering of the world on the level of mind, you’re wise enough to know we can’t – nothing ever gets resolved there – but if we go to the core of the heart – to that stillness -we can take some comfort in knowing that no one is damned to ‘eternal’ hell – no such thing – and that always contained in the darkest hour of our suffering is the seed of Divine Love…

  16. Thanks for the Mooji link. I was very moved by it. Both what we call “darkness” and “light” come from Consciousness. Why, I don’t know. But the depths is beneficent in weaving both into a much richer and new tapestry. (This was something Jung understood very well.)

    “Even a happy life cannot be without a measure of darkness, and the word happy would lose its meaning if it were not balanced by sadness. It is far better take things as they come along with patience and equanimity.”
    Carl Jung
    (The last part on “equanimity” is not applicable to us. There are no prescriptions or strategies. Things just are, and we just feel the joy of Being.)

  17. Why isn’t equanimity applicable to us, Ernest?

    I tend to welcome equanimous responses to most things.

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