006. Steve Winn

Steven WinnRev. Winn’s experience is that the Kingdom of Heaven is a state of higher consciousness.  He focuses on understanding and experiencing the Christian mystical tradition in terms of the clearly defined states of consciousness found in the Vedic tradition.  He was the senior pastor of Unity Church of Fairfield IA for 12 years and for six years has been the senior pastor of the Fellowship of the Holy Spirit. He has worked extensively on the subtle process of overcoming the Three Temptations of Jesus Christ and has been practicing the Transcendental Meditation technique for close to 40 years. He is a successful businessman, married with two children.

Interview recorded 12/23/2009.

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

Video also available on Facebook in 20-minute segments.

6 thoughts on “006. Steve Winn

  1. Just watched. Loved the honesty and simpleness. So many great points. Also loved Revelry orchestrated with the Indian motif.

  2. Really enjoying this interview. His Q&A about karma near the beginning – that clarified something I’ve heard many speak about badly. His Christian perspective.

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  4. Loved this interview. Does Steve have a website or his church? it’s really refreshing and utterly unique to listen to an open minded christian!!

  5. Wonderful interview. Thank you both.

    The following are thoughts that occurred to me while watching and listening to the interview. Thank you Rick and Steve. I hope to meet you both face to face sometime in the future.

    These ‘States of Consciousness’ I have always experience to one degree or another – as a lad before traditional schooling started, as a teen of 15 years of age, and on varying occasions – at most unexpected times – as an adult. Common to all of those experiences was peace, timelessness, and joy – all of which were saturated with a most intense experience of humility. Said humility, itself, preceded and followed each event, but the humility appearing afterward was a transformation (as if birthed) of what was before to the extent that to describe it would be impossible.

    The ego, crushed, allows the wind to pick it up and carry it away, revealing the nature of it. The ego, left behind (and always with much weeping), has a similar affect except that the opportunity to return to it remains.

    Who is this Satan, this Lucifer, this Ancient Serpent called the Devil? It is no more (and no less) than a mind which carries out a conclusion to its end based upon every thought of wind.

    That ego leaves is an illusive thought coming from the ego; thus, no leaf falls to the ground without some breeze blowing upon it or being produced by it. And as a leaf that has left, the tree still remains, full of life – its personality evidenced by the decay on the ground of its former, sunlit green. In that way, the tree can never lose its personality by way of decay, for even that death supplies nutrition, once again, to its roots (until another season appears).

    Ego is no more than a thought created by the brain which allows the concept of mind to appear, and no less than an infinite number of thoughts created by the mind which allows for that same mind to vanish – producing nothing. Here lies the wisdom of the being, out of which manifests every illusion in order to lead it back to itself.

    The Mormon religion might be arguably the purest form of Christianity that has ever arisen in the earth (but I do posses some bias for I was baptized Mormon in their honor). But from an historical context (unbiased by Mormon scholarship or its Enemies) Christianity did not begin to flourish until many hundreds of years after the death of the Divine Being it embraces. And that is a good thing, for had such a disappearance of truth not, along with the simultaneous appearance of falsehood, occurred, men would have searched in their minds for truth and found it there. Thus, eyes turn inward – where heart and soul in their functions of perfect harmony together unite – and discover the truth (and in that discovery something else is born).

    Any effective change in a ‘spiritual organization’ (assuming, of course, that what is called spiritual can be organized) may occur only when one is able to brake away from its tradition while at the same time return to that unicity of the being belonging to it. Without such unicity, and without that freedom which occurs within that bond, it will be impossible for any change to occur.

    All this talk about Meditation I do not understand. Is it I that is in control of the manifestation of being (as if to manipulate the experience)? Or is it the being – that divine spark of the holy that we are – the guide to and through every experience. I expect that the answer lies in a combination of the 2, in a thing which is referred to as two becoming one.

    Do not change Christianity. Leave it alone. It is perfect the way it is. For without Christianity (or any religion for that matter) no wide path and broad way might appear in the consciousness of the mind reflecting that truth found by looking inwards. What is empty, what is dark, what irrational always makes a good contrast for what is pure and beyond defilement. Whatever path you choose, do so with much energy and vitality, for every work called “Perfect” depends on such activities of duality and rejects anything somewhere in-between.

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