424. Robert Thurman & Isa Gucciardi

Robert A.F. Thurman is the Jey Tsong Khapa Professor of Indo-Tibetan Buddhist Studies in the Department of Religion at Columbia University, President of the Tibet House U.S., a non-profit organization dedicated to the preservation and promotion of Tibetan civilization, and President of the American Institute of Buddhist Studies, a non-profit affiliated with the Center for Buddhist Studies at Columbia University and dedicated to the publication of translations of important artistic and scientific treatises from the Tibetan Tengyur.

TIME Magazine chose Professor Thurman as one of its 25 most influential Americans in 1997, describing him as a “larger than life scholar-activist destined to convey the Dharma, the precious teachings of Shakyamuni Buddha, from Asia to America.” The New York Times recently said Thurman “is considered the leading American expert on Tibetan Buddhism.

In this interview, we discuss Thurman’s latest book: Man of Peace: The Illustrated Life Story of the Dalai Lama of Tibet.

Thurman is known as a talented popularizer of the Buddha’s teachings. He is a riveting speaker and an author of many books on Tibet, Buddhism, art, politics, and culture, including:

Previous Batgap interview with Robert Thurman.

Isa Gucciardi, Ph.D. is the Founding Director of the Foundation of the Sacred Stream, a school for consciousness studies in Berkeley, CA. Isa is also the creator of the spiritual counseling model, Depth Hypnosis. In addition to her teaching schedule that includes teaching classes in Applied Buddhist Psychology, Applied Shamanism, Integrated Energy Medicine and Depth Hypnosis, she has active practices in Depth Hypnosis and Applied Shamanic Counseling in San Francisco, CA.

In this interview, we discuss Isa’s latest book: Coming to Peace: Resolving Conflict Within Ourselves and With Others

Other books:

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Transcript of this interview

Recorded October 19, 2017, at the Science and Nonduality Conference.

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction to “Buddha at the Gas Pump”
  • 00:04:05 – The Burden of Staying in the Hundreds
  • 00:06:47 – The Dalai Lama’s Development and Growth
  • 00:09:45 – The Heroism of His Holiness the Dalai Lama
  • 00:12:41 – The Dalai Lama’s Approval
  • 00:16:30 – The Circle of Communication 
  • 00:20:47 – Reconciling Conflicting Parts of the Self
  • 00:25:27 – The Need for Wisdom alongside Meditation
  • 00:28:40 – The Turbulence of Enlightenment
  • 00:31:42 – Cross-fertilization of Knowledge
  • 00:34:21 – The Power of Nonviolent Resistance and Peaceful Dialogue
  • 00:37:23 – Shamanic Practice and Helping Spirits
  • 00:40:47 – Connecting with Inner Guidance
  • 00:44:47 – The Power of the Shamanic Journey
  • 00:47:37 – A Conflict between Practitioner, Soldier, and Red Ball
  • 00:50:43 – Resolving Conflict and Taking Care of Oneself
  • 00:53:31 – Buddhism’s role in world peace and vulnerability
  • 00:56:17 – The Choice of Vulnerability and Peace
  • 01:00:00 – Creating Outer Peace
  • 01:02:25 – A Funny Story About the Dalai Lama
  • 01:05:35 – The Vicious Circle Stops
  • 01:08:38 – Finding Equilibrium within the Mind
  • 01:13:28 – The Unity of Self and Others
  • 01:17:02 – Bringing Peace in Conflict
  • 01:20:44 – Inner Resistance and Self-forgiveness
  • 01:24:45 – The Difference in Society and Gender Roles
  • 01:28:21 – The Dualistic View of Brahmins vs. Buddhists
  • 01:31:57 – Reincarnation as a Social Institution in Tibet
  • 01:36:20 – The Geopolitical Power Play in Tibet
  • 01:39:49 – Building Cults and Exiles
  • 01:42:31 – Thank You for Listening