663. Brian Thomas Swimme

Brian Thomas Swimme did his doctoral work in gravitational dynamics in the Department of Mathematics at the University of Oregon. From the publication of The Universe Is a Green Dragon to the Emmy Award–winning PBS documentary Journey of the Universe, Swimme has articulated the cosmology of a creative universe, one in which human intelligence plays an essential role.

For three decades as a professor in the Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness program at the California Institute of Integral Studies in San Francisco, he taught evolutionary cosmology to graduate students in the humanities. Currently he is director of the Third Story of the Universe at Human Energy, a nonprofit public benefit organization.

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Interview recorded September 18, 2022

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604. Ilia Delio

Ilia DelioIlia Delio, OSF holds the Josephine C. Connelly Chair in Christian Theology at Villanova University. Her area of research is Science and Religion with interests in artificial intelligence, evolution, quantum physics, and the import of these for Christian doctrine and life. She holds a doctorate in Pharmacology from Rutgers University, Graduate School of Biomedical Sciences, and a doctorate in Historical Theology from Fordham University. She is the author of over twenty books including Making All things New (Catholicity in an Evolving Universe), a finalist for the 2019 Michael Ramsey Prize and The Unbearable Wholeness of Being: God, Evolution, and the Power of Love, for which she won the 2014 Silver Nautilus Book Award and a 2014 Catholic Press Association Book Award in Faith and Science. Her latest book is Re-Enchanting the Earth: Why AI Needs Religion. She is the founder of the Center for Christogenesis, an online educational resource for promoting the vision of Teilhard de Chardin and, more broadly, the integration of science and religion in the 21st century.

Some of the main points discussed in this conversation.

  • What is God?
  • As we enter the mystery of God, language fails us, and the mystery grasps us all the more.
  • The mystery of God is the same mystery at the heart of physics.
  • There’s nothing outside the existence of God. God is existence itself.
  • God’s love is so infinite that there is nothing in this creation that’s un-loveable or unloved by God.
  • This is a finite creation. Wherever there are boundaries there is the possibility of suffering.  Suffering and death are part of the life cycle.
  • Reincarnation discussion. Are multiple incarnations sequential or simultaneous?
  • A deep experience of the mystery of God supports the freedom to speculate, dream, and imagine.
  • Science and religion need one another in order to fully understand the world.
  • The necessity and drawbacks of specialization and the complexification of knowledge.
  • If our hearts are grounded in holy mystery we become more fully God-like in our actions.
  • Humanity won’t have a sustainable future unless we renew the deeper dimension in our lives.
  • Cyborgs and transhumanism
  • The mutually beneficial relationship between spiritual and material technologies.
  • A profound spiritual transformation is underway.
  • Pierre Teilhard de Chardin’s idea of a new religion of the earth, retaining the wisdom of the past but creating something new for the future.
  • Wherever in the universe intelligent life exists, it will search for ultimate intelligence.
  • Intelligent design
  • The core energy of the universe – God – is love. The force that creates stars is the same force that manifests as love in humans.
  • Love is the highest knowledge. In the evening of life, we shall be judged on love alone.
  • Making love the lens through which we see all of life.
  • “The more I am in union with another, the more I am in touch with myself because it’s the core of myself that’s in union.”
  • What might the world be like if everyone were enlightened?

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Interview recorded June 26, 2021.

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544. Jonathan Gustin

Jonathan GustinMeditation asks, “Who am I?”

Therapy asks, “How do I heal and become happier?”

Purpose work addresses the question, “Where do I belong in the ecology of life?”

Purpose guiding breaks the spell of our default purposes of safety, security, comfort and outward success, and orients us towards our true purpose, which is to embody our unique calling within.

When we all have the opportunity to live our calling, we can support our collective true purpose: to become co-creators of our species’ evolution. We may, thus, give birth to more beauty, truth, and goodness into the world.

Jonathan Gustin, M.A, MFT, is the founder of Purpose Guides Institute. He guides people to find and embody their life’s purpose, as well as trains those who want to become Purpose Guides themselves. Jonathan has been a psychotherapist, meditation teacher, and Purpose Guide for over 20 years. He is an adjunct professor at JFK University and co-author of Purpose Rising: A Global Movement of Transformation and Meaning with Ken Wilber, Erwin Laszlo, and others.

Website: purposeguides.org

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Interview recorded April 3, 2020.

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