585. Doug Scott

Doug ScottDoug Scott, LCSW, works as a mental health counselor in his private practice in Dallas, Texas.  After graduating from college in 1997, he served as an international volunteer for two years in Bluefields, Nicaragua. This intense experience changed his life and he returned to the US to pursue graduate studies in clinical social work and pastoral ministry at Boston College. The nexus of spirituality and psychology have always intrigued Doug since childhood and he brings this sensibility to his counseling practice.

Doug grew up Catholic and was always drawn to the mystical lineage within this belief system.  He had experiences with Jesus, Mary, and angels at an early age. He was also secretly attracted to all things paranormal and would spend many hours reading topics such as reincarnation, ufology, OBE’s, NDE’s, ghosts, ESP, pyramids, and other areas.

One evening in 2013, he felt a presence that invited him to listen to a Buddhist chant, which came as a surprise since, at that time, he had not explored other faith systems. He was guided to listen to Om Mani Padme Hum and as the chant unfolded, Doug saw a golden dew overshadow him and activate him in a way that was new.  This marked the next chapter in Doug’s life.

A few months later, Doug was led to the Law of One material and immediately saw that it provided the clearest, most undistorted, exploration of the Perennial Philosophy that he’d ever come across. It also cast a wide net to include all of the paranormal things that intrigued him and made it possible for him to put all of the different threads in his life together in one seamless garment.

Since 2015, Doug has written a blog (cosmicchrist.net) that explores the synthesis of the Law of One material with mystical Christianity and psychology.  He sees his vocation in this lifetime as a bridge-builder between conventional concepts and cosmic metaphysics to help people who seek clarity, normalization, and validation for their own journeys.

Main points discussed:

  • Tapping into the imaginal realms, the subtle realms, through the “heart-eyes.”
  • The chakras of the Logos, God, are densities. Densities are different bandwidths of consciousness.
  • Nature of the Infinite Creator as sentient Love, or Logos.
  • Diversification within the Holographic Universe allows the Infinite Creator to experience Itself, infinitely.
  • Christianity’s need to move into the mystical and nondual
  • Consciousness is measured through degrees of knowing we are one with all, with God, and are God experiencing creation.
  • Brief descriptions of God’s chakras (“densities”).
  • Pantheism AND Panentheism are both true.
  • Third density’s veil-of-forgetting leads to development of faith, notions such as “Original Sin,” and more intense experiences for third-density humans.
  • The novel idea of “finity” against the backdrop of infinity is a way for the Infinite Creator to experience Itself.
  • Many people have incarnated to be midwives to help birth Earth’s 4th.
  • Shift into 4th density is a gradual process that includes an ever-increasing number of 3rd/4th densities double-bodied people.
  • Some of Doug’s background:
    • 1) dual master’s program at Boston College in clinical social work and pastoral ministry,
    • 2) childhood UFO encounter,
    • 3) alcohol recovery leads to greater self-insight,
    • 4) mystical experience in 2013 of Om Mani Padme Hum and the golden dew,
    • 5) Law of One material (lawofone.info) and Daskalos material (researchersoftruth.org)
  • Brief description of Wanderers: humble servants from 4th, 5th, or 6th density who incarnate in 3rd density to aid.
  • Jesus as a Wanderer had a unique mission known as the Jesus Event.
  • The greatest service as an awakening being is to embrace the full plenum of God disguised as our life and ordinary things. Nothing “up there” that is not fully present “down here.”
  • Triune nature of the Infinite Creator: Transcendent to all things, Incarnated as all things, Indwelling within all things.
  • Reality is “cruciform” in that every aspect of the manifested universe follows the eternal pattern of death and resurrection. The symbol of the cross or ankh is the great archetypal symbol that captures this cruciform reality.
  • Learning how to live in liminal space is the mark of spiritual and psychological maturity.
  • Offering our suffering as a sacrifice in solidarity with all others experiencing suffering is a great gesture of love and serves the collective.
  • Learning about social inequities, participating in social justice, and helping to empower marginalized groups helps to activate the fourth density.
  • Spiral Dynamics can help us understand the different levels of consciousness.
  • The Spiral is made up of seven levels in the first tier and has an overarching ethos: “transcend and exclude.” There is no innate awareness that levels exist even though each level mistrusts and even hates any other level, whether above or below.
  • The second tier of the Spiral is difficult to get to, but it is the onset of nondual consciousness. The overarching ethos is: “include and transcend.”
  • Future fourth-density living could be characterized by living from second-tier values beginning at birth.

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Interview recorded January 30, 2021.

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562. James Finley

As a contemplative practitioner and clinical psychologist, James Finley helps seekers who desire to live a contemplative, whole life. Drawing from his experience as a former monk and spiritual directee of Thomas Merton, Jim offers trustworthy guidance for the spiritual journey through his website, online courses, occasional retreats, and the Center for Action and Contemplation where he serves as a core faculty member of The Living School for Action and Contemplation with Cynthia Bourgeault and Richard Rohr. Jim is the author of several books, including:

James’s podcast, Turning to the Mystics is for people searching for something more meaningful, intimate, and richly present in the divine gift of their lives. A clinical psychologist, James offers a modern take on the historical contemplative practices of Christian mystics like Teresa of Avila and Thomas Merton. Leaning into their experiences can become a gateway to hope, healing, and oneness. In each episode, Jim reads an excerpt from a mystical text, unpacks the meaning and symbolism, and then concludes with meditation and prayer. Together with Kirsten Oates from the Center for Action and Contemplation, they explore listener questions and examine their own paths as modern contemplatives in this beautiful and broken world.

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Interview recorded August 1, 2020.

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551. Elena Nezhinsky

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Like many spiritual seekers, Elena Nezhinsky spent years meditating and studying spiritual writings and practices. Persistent inquiry into the nature of being and unknowable grace eventually culminated in a series of deep, awakening realizations. With uncompromising honesty, great humor, and a profound commitment to serving others, Elena shared her personal spiritual journey and the insights gleaned along the way in a book “Buddha on a Bull: A Practical Approach to Enlightenment“. As she puts it, “this is a book for everyone who is tired of seeking enlightenment, as I was.”

Elena is a co-creator of a method of awakening inquiry called Direct Pointing which continues to be profoundly helpful for thousands of people around the world. Elena holds M.S. in Engineering, she is professionally trained in Coaching, Human Design, and Family Constellations systems. She is a lifelong learner of Behavioral Psychology. A native of Ukraine, she lives in California now, where she continues to write and works as a Deep Transformation Mentor, guiding people to integrate and embody spiritual awakening.

Website: elenanezhinsky.com

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Previous BatGap interview with Elena (and Ilona Ciunaite)

Interview recorded May 23, 2020.

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