676. Lissa Friedman

There have always been three deep interests that have informed my life; and those are art, spirituality, and psychotherapy which all tend to reflect each other. I have been an artist since my childhood, had spiritual experiences since I was 6, and my interest in psychology began at twelve when I started reading psychology books.

There were some experiences during my childhood which indicated an opening for spiritual awareness. The first was when I was walking to school, when I was 6, and I realized that I was in this body. The second happened many times when several light beings would sit on my bed and talk to me, before I went to sleep. Their energy was very distinct. I could feel the weight of them on my bed.

My spiritual journey actively began when I was 19 and began doing TM. After TM I had a few other spiritual teachers and many spiritual openings, or awakenings, throughout my life. The last most significant experience, which was several years ago, was when I was taking a walk and I heard a voice inside of me say “it’s time”. I wasn’t sure what that meant, but I thought it might become clear by connecting with the group of light beings. When I did, an energy began to flow through me. I soon got another message that this was not just for me, it was to share with others. This led me to gather a few people together to meditate, and with whom to share this energy. I had no idea if anyone else would feel the flow of energy, but they did. My meetings with people have evolved into a sharing of wisdom and energy that flows from this spaciousness, which is the Boundless.
The importance of this sharing is that it helps all of us shift into the consciousness of the One, or Infinite, or Boundless. This is a small step away from knowing that we are the Boundless. As we move through the world as the Boundless, there is a ripple effect. Sharing this shift in frequency facilitates, an expansion in human consciousness; where more people know that we are all One. Through an energetic transmission, people are guided to take their next step on their spiritual journey.

I have been a psychotherapist for about 40 years, during this time I have been trained and/or certified in several modalities including: Transpersonal Hypnotherapy through the Michael Newton Institute, Hypnotherapy through the Ericksonian School.
I am the founder of the Enneagram School of Awakening, which is accredited by The International Enneagram Association.

I call what I do Transpersonal Psychotherapy because I help people work through personal limiting patterns, as well as guiding them to open to their true nature, which is beyond the personal.

I have written two books Boundless – Experiential description of stepping into the boundless, and my journey to the Boundless; and From the Heart of Boundless – discussions and teachings about obstacles and issues that might get in the way of connecting to the Boundless.


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Summary and transcript of this interview

Interview recorded February 4, 2023.

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

YouTube Video Chapters:

00:00:00 – Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
00:04:26 – Childhood Memories and Unknown Experiences
00:08:42 – Interaction with Subtle Beings
00:12:53 – The Journey of Meditation and Spirituality
00:16:59 – Opening to Subtle Dimensions
00:21:48 – A Phase of Iconoclasm
00:26:45 – Relearning the Enneagram and Awakening Experiences
00:31:37 – Feeling the Energy of Each Type
00:36:43 – The Enneagram and Living a Transcendent Life
00:40:46 – Reconnecting with the Energy of Light Beings
00:45:32 – Exploring Past Lives and Life Between Lives
00:50:43 – The Awakening and In-Depth Exploration
00:55:36 – Sharing the Frequency
01:00:05 – Accessing Information in an Expanded State
01:05:20 – Out of focus and in focus
01:09:32 – The Beauty of the Present Moment
01:13:38 – The Boundlessness of Is-ness and Letting Go of Identity
01:18:47 – Limiting Beliefs and Identity
01:23:54 – Short-term Practices for Facilitating the Process of Awakening
01:28:09 – Shift into the Boundless
01:32:24 – The Art of Surrender
01:36:41 – Retreats and Self-Talk Diagnosis
01:41:01 – Kundalini Awakening and Its Effects
01:45:13 – Conversation about Asheville and TM Center