455. Jason Shulman

Jason Shulman is an American spiritual teacher whose original work springs from his Judaic and Buddhist background. He is the founder of A Society of Souls: The School for Nondual Healing and Awakening, based in the United States and the Netherlands. There he teaches the distinctive body of nondual work he has developed to awaken the human spirit: Nondual Healing, Impersonal Movement and the Work of Return. Jason’s main concern has been to develop paths of healing the mind, body and spirit based on his own understanding of the difficulties inherent in the human condition. Through his studies and practice, Jason has developed a unique perspective on human consciousness and the nature of existence. His works seeks to translate this perspective into a replicable and clearly delineated path for other seekers of truth to follow. He has been especially interested in applying personal spiritual work into methods of transforming society at large. To that end, he has created the MAGI Process, a nondual method of working with conflicts between people, institutions and governments. He is the author of numerous monographs and books and several albums of his work as a singer and songwriter. More about his work can be found at societyofsouls.com.


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Transcript of this interview

Interview recorded May 19, 2018.

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  • 00:00:00 – Introduction to Buddha at the Gas Pump
  • 00:03:47 – The Resolution of Non-duality
  • 00:07:40 – Healing the Ego vs Transcending
  • 00:11:49 – The Difficulty of Being an Individual in the Totality of Being
  • 00:16:58 – Effort in Spiritual Development
  • 00:21:06 – Welcoming Challenges and Being a Total Human Being
  • 00:24:58 – The Ethics of Enlightenment
  • 00:28:31 – The Four Universes and Non-Dual Shamanism
  • 00:32:41 – The Ultimate Reality and Non-Duality
  • 00:37:16 – The Aliveness of Everything
  • 00:40:51 – Appreciating Divine Intelligence in Buddhism
  • 00:44:39 – The Myth of Enlightenment and Freedom from Suffering
  • 00:49:48 – The Work of Return and the Ego’s Resistance to Change
  • 00:53:44 – Secondary Suffering and the Fear of Death
  • 00:58:21 – Doubts and Verification in Spiritual Practices
  • 01:02:04 – The Intrigue of Extraterrestrial Life and Kabbalistic Healing
  • 01:05:05 – A Teenage Adventure in Midtown Manhattan
  • 01:07:25 – From Health Crisis to Teacher
  • 01:09:59 – Awakening and Understanding
  • 01:13:06 – The Limitations of Perception
  • 01:16:34 – Developing Perception in Non-Dual Shamanism
  • 01:21:36 – Loss and Spiritual Materialism
  • 01:25:40 – Different Perspectives on God
  • 01:28:58 – The Nature of the Universal God
  • 01:32:33 – Mutual Co-arising and the Magi Process
  • 01:38:01 – The Role of Spirituality in Solving Global Problems
  • 01:43:32 – The Point of Phase Transition: Water to Steam
  • 01:47:09 – The Purpose of Spiritual Search
  • 01:50:46 – The Importance of Spiritual Education
  • 01:53:47 – Working with David Shapiro
  • 01:57:11 – The Nondual Shaman and Awakening the Self