598. Gautam Sachdeva

Gautam SachdevaBorn and brought up in Mumbai, Gautam faced one challenge after another fairly early in life. He remarks, “As a result, I grew up before my time.” Having to cope with the loss of his father at the young age of 14 gave rise to questions related to death, insecurity, and survival, which would affect most children faced with a similar loss.

Gautam’s fondest memories are of the times spent with his parents on weekend trips to the shrine of Sai Baba at Shirdi, and on annual holidays when the family went to Kashmir. His father had built a prospering advertising business, which after his father’s demise, had continued to grow and progress under the watchful eye of his mother. Gautam started attending office while he was still in college and, three years later, took over the reins of the business.

Running the business and dealing with a staff of thirty who were all much older than him taught him about building relationships with people – whether they were CEOs of multi-national corporations, suppliers, or his colleagues at work. Gradually, he was able to bring the company out of the red – bad debts that had been incurred over the years – and back into the black.

At the turn of the millennium (December 1999), Gautam’s inherent but latent spiritual inclination surfaced through a series of synchronistic events. Following his mother’s example, he started attending a course in Brahma Vidya (Knowledge of Brahman) based on a system of ancient Tibetan breathing exercises. This course was conducted by his mother’s guru, Justice Dudhat of the High Court of Mumbai.

Around this time, Gautam diversified into publishing by setting up Yogi Impressions, primarily to publish his mother Santosh’s book on her spiritual awakening. Santosh Ma’s journey of awakening spanned three years, from 1996 to 1999. Although there was no desire or ambition to publish any other book besides this one, destiny had charted a new course for him, as he was soon to discover.

As a single parent, Santosh played the role of both mother and father during Gautam’s as well as his sisters’ growing up years. This role took on another dimension after her spiritual awakening when aspirants started visiting her for guidance on the path of Kundalini and meditation. By now, Gautam was closely working with her on other books that were to follow as well as witnessing, at close quarters, her interactions with aspirants. He imbibed a lot by just being in her presence. He is often asked what it is like to live under the same roof with a personality such as his mother. His sister Shibani sums it up by saying, “Never once did our mother utter the word ‘No’ to us.”

In November 1999, Gautam met Eckhart Tolle, the best-selling spiritual author of The Power of Now, in Hong Kong, while holidaying with his sister Nikki who worked there at the time. He had several interactions with this spiritual teacher over the next few years, courtesy of Nikki and her friends’ proximity to Eckhart, which led to his publishing company bringing out the Indian edition of The Power of Now. Eckhart had said that publishing would be the start of ‘an adventure’ for Gautam, and so it turned out to be.

It was at Nikki’s urging that Gautam met the Advaita sage, Ramesh Balsekar, in February 2000. Some of her friends were flying down from a distant country just to meet this modern sage who lived a mere 20-minute drive away from Gautam’s home. Having no conscious interest in the subject, he tagged along one Sunday morning to Ramesh’s residence in Mumbai. On his next visit when Ramesh saw him, he asked Gautam: “Isn’t this the second consecutive Sunday you have come? Be careful young man… this will become your Sunday church!” Little then did he know that he would keep visiting Ramesh over the next nine years to attend his satsangs.

In hindsight, Gautam says that these three events: the culmination of his mother’s awakening, meeting Eckhart Tolle as well as Ramesh Balsekar, all in a span of a few months between November 1999 and February 2000, were to shape the course of his life’s journey thereon. As he was not familiar with their teachings at the time and was graced by directly being in their presence, he refers to this period as ‘being introduced to the presence of Presence.’

Ramesh’s teaching was a validation of Gautam’s life experiences. It became evident that Ramesh was more than a friend, philosopher, father-figure, and mentor – he was the Guru he had been unconsciously seeking. Sitting with Ramesh, Gautam says he got answers ‘to questions he never asked’. This was reflected in Ramesh’s words (from the Foreword to Gautam’s second book The Buddha’s Sword, based on Ramesh’s teaching): “During the early years when Gautam visited me every Sunday morning, I noticed the keen interest he showed in the subject and I soon came to the conclusion that ‘awakening’ had taken place, and that he was on his way to ‘deliverance’ – awakening functioning in daily living.”

During these years, Gautam worked closely with Ramesh assisting him with the editing and publishing of some of his books. In later years, Ramesh encouraged Gautam to write especially after reading an article Gautam had written for India’s leading spiritual magazine on the occasion of Ramesh’s 90th birthday in 2007. It was this gentle nudge that eventually led to Gautam writing his first book based on Ramesh’s teaching – Pointers from Ramesh Balsekar.

Since then, Gautam has authored five more books. He is quite perplexed himself at this ‘happening’ as he had no intention of becoming a writer. “At least one doesn’t have to look hard for a publisher,” he adds with a smile. His books have been translated into Russian, German, Spanish, Hindi, and Marathi.

Gautam has an active work-life that includes overseeing the publishing business. He lives and works in South Mumbai. Depending on Gautam’s schedule, meetings take place on some Sunday mornings at his residence in South Mumbai. Talks are being regularly live-streamed on Zoom as well as YouTube.

Some of the points discussed in this interview.

  • Gautam’s background
  • Relationship with Eckhart Tolle and then Ramesh Balsekar.
  • Thoughts on reincarnation.
  • The quest for peace of mind and ultimately, happiness.
  • Learning to accept the will of “the source”.
  • You are an instrument of God, having been shaped by the Divine.
  • Nisargadatta on the distinction between consciousness and That which is prior to consciousness.
  • Not getting lost in concepts and imaginings.
  • The evolutionary value of challenges.
  • The most reliable spiritual awakenings are often the least spectacular – “The kingdom of heaven sneaks up like a thief in the night”.
  • You have control over action alone, never its fruits. Ultimately, there is no free will, but we perceive ourselves as having it and should act accordingly.
  • Witnessing the flow of life – such a glorious way of being.
  • A discussion of kundalini.
  • Equanimity as a measure of spiritual advancement.
  • Nisargadatta on the importance of meditation and spiritual practice.
  • Ramana Maharshi on how to recognize a sage: the peace and humility he radiates.
  • Seeing God in everything develops compassion for all beings.
  • The “I am” is revealed when the thinking mind dissolves.
  • Gross, subtle, and transcendent levels of speech.
  • The test of any teaching is its impact on daily living, especially the unexpected.
  • The influence of individual spiritual development on the world.
  • Discussion on death. Fear of death is actually fear of ego death. “Dying before you die” eliminates the fear of death.
  • Accepting that everyone acts according to their conditioning transforms relationships.
  • A moment of silence ends the interview.

Website: gautamsachdeva.com

Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group.

Interview recorded May 15, 2021.

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597. Shaykh Fadhlalla Haeri

Shaykh Fadhlalla HaeriSufi mystic and visionary Shaykh Fadhlalla Haeri is an enlightened spiritual master. His life and works serve as a reminder that spirituality is a science and an art vitally relevant to our times. Shaykh Fadhlalla grew up in an environment where religious scholars, as well as Sufi and mystics, were part of his formative experience. His love and understanding of the universality of the Qur’anic message have imbued him with respect for other religions and spiritual paths.

Websites:

Books mentioned during the interview:

Some points discussed in this interview:

  • Shaykh Fadhlalla’s childhood:
    • His curiosity and interest in science.
    • Seeing the underlying sameness in different cultures and religions.
    • Not being satisfied with earthly comforts.
  • Integrating individuality with universality, inner with outer, physicality with spirituality.
  • Luck and good fortune vs. divine orchestration.
  • Life as preparation for infinite life.
  • Nature provides the most amazing flow of guidance, but we are not attuned to it anymore, and our material fears and anxieties consume everything.
  • Calibration between the physical reality and the ‘quantum field’ makes a “huge difference in the quality of life and the ease of flow”.
  • Different kinds of ‘mind’: Low, Normal, Super, and Supra.
  • Shaykh Fadhlalla’s shift from occasional to abiding awakening.
  • Awakenings can be dramatic (abrupt) or subtle (gradual). In any case, refinement is ongoing. Life’s challenges may still touch you, but won’t overwhelm you.
  • We are moving very rapidly to greater universality, acceptance, tolerance, and respect.
  • The benefits of contemplating the vastness of the universe.
  • Shaykh Fadhlalla’s two highly spiritual fathers – his biological one and his guru, Swami Chinmayananda.
  • The 3-day limit for grieving in the Muslim tradition.
  • All religions come from the same light.
  • “The arc of the rising consciousness is clear.”
  • Love of nature as a spiritual path.
  • “You are essentially a cosmic being on a short journey on this earth.”
  • Suffering can be an incentive to see God.
  • Karma and reincarnation in Islam and Sufism.
  • Spiritual and other forms of leadership is shifting from male to female. Female saints in Islamic history.
  • Liberation within limitations.
  • Some quotes:
    • “The ultimate treasure, without measure, is your own soul”
    • “Every home needs its own inner ashram.”
    • “Within every human being, there is sacred light. If I don’t interfere too much, if I put my shadow away then the light will lead me.”
    • “The master within, my own soul, the divine presence.”

Discussion of this interview in the BatGap Community Facebook Group.

Interview recorded May 1, 2021

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

596. Richard Tarnas

Richard TarnasRichard Tarnas is a professor of psychology and cultural history at the California Institute of Integral Studies in San Francisco, where he founded the graduate program in Philosophy, Cosmology, and Consciousness. He teaches courses in the history of ideas, archetypal studies, depth psychology, and religious evolution. He frequently lectures on archetypal studies and depth psychology at Pacifica Graduate Institute in Santa Barbara and was formerly the director of programs and education at Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California. He is the author of The Passion of the Western Mind, a history of the Western world view from the ancient Greek to the postmodern widely used in universities. His second book, Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View, received the Book of the Year Prize from the Scientific and Medical Network and is the basis for the upcoming documentary series The Changing of the Gods. He is a past president of the International Transpersonal Association and served on the Board of Governors for the C. G. Jung Institute of San Francisco.

Website: cosmosandpsyche.com

Interview recorded April 25, 2021.

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.