Rick Archer: Welcome to Buddha at the Gas Pump. My name is Rick Archer, and my guest today is Marie Manya. Sherry. And I first discovered Marie when I was listening to one of Tammy Simon’s interviews her son, her insights at the Edge series. And I really liked what I heard. And so I wanted to interview Marie. I’ve listened to her audiobook, and together, my wife and I came up with a whole list of questions. Because the topic happens to fascinate us, which is spirit guides, or guardian angels, maybe as they’re sometimes called. And before I introduce before, Maria introduces herself more, and we really get talking, I just wanted to put this in the context of the series in general that we’re doing here, but at the gas pump, because you know, some people are very strictly non dual in their orientation. And they feel that anything other than direct realization of the Self, and its pure nature is a distraction, or, you know, kind of a tangent, and one can get lost in all kinds of details that won’t really be conducive to one’s overall evolution toward Enlightenment. And other people are totally into those sorts of details. And, you know, they may be very much into New Age things, and channeling and guardian angels and all that stuff. Gabriel, Archangel Gabriel and, and the two camps don’t often see eye to eye, the non duelists tend to be critical of that stuff. And I don’t know how the new agey types or feel about the non dual folks. But my attitude is that, sure, there’s this non dual basis of creation, pure universal consciousness. And but there’s a vast range of relative realities between that and the ordinary level of perception that most people operate in. And in the course of one’s spiritual growth, many people begin to become aware of that range and often wonder what it’s all about. I’m seeing beings around people, what does that mean? What are they? What do they want with me? And so I think it’s part of the package of really understanding the spirituality in general. And it’s interesting to talk to somebody who is quite familiar with it. So that’s why I invited Marie. So welcome, Marie.
Marie Manuchehri: thank you so much for having me on your program.
Rick Archer: Sure.
Marie Manuchehri: Appreciate it.
Rick Archer: So Marie. Introduce yourself. You’ve been you were an oncology nurse living a fairly ordinary life. And then things began to change for you.
Marie Manuchehri: Yeah, I would say my childhood wasn’t very ordinary. My family’s very holistic, and my mother didn’t even take us to regular physicians unless she had to for vaccinations or if we fractured arm, I have four siblings, and we’re all a year apart. And so um, so I was raised with a lot of awareness, if you will, about diet and nutrition. My parents left the Catholic Church when I was seven, my mom got very angry at Catholicism and kind of became an atheist for about eight months, I think it was and then she started to study spirituality. So not only was the home full of holistic awareness, but a lot of books on spirituality. So I read things like Seth speaks when I was 11, or 12, and the life and teachings of the masters of the Far East thing. So I love that series. That’s a great series Spalding. But of course, like most people, I wanted to be normal. I didn’t want to be like my family. And so when I was 20, I married an engineer. And we moved to a little part of the city that we I called Pleasantville, the neighborhood and I later went to nursing school, which I loved, which was so funny, because because my family so holistic and organic, I, I really didn’t think it was a good idea for me to study nursing, but my very first days in school of studying pre nursing and the nursing, I loved every moment of it. And of course, very nice people decide to be nurses typically. So I was surrounded by really kind individuals and I just happen to love science. So I became a nurse and I actually started having some unusual experiences. While I was a nurse, I was working in a hospital and I started having tachycardia was ups. My heart was racing. So I was working night shift. I was working two to 312 hour shifts. I had three kids, and I was I was working graveyard
Rick Archer: Two or three in a row?
Marie Manuchehri: I The reach of three children Oh, you mean,
Rick Archer: Two or three shifts in a row?
Marie Manuchehri: Yeah, I was working two to three 12-hour night shifts, sometimes it’d be in a row would just depend on how the schedule was. And the Tachycardia was often and I finally approached one of the cardiologists at the hospital and said, You know, I’m not sure my heart’s racing all the time. So he, he actually thought my mitral valve was prolapsed. He was pretty sure I was quite seriously ill. But luckily, I wasn’t. And he said that my bio rhythms were often working so many night shifts. So I he said, I need to go two days, and the only opening that there was at the time was on the ontology floor, which was even further away from my roots in not at all what I thought that I would enjoy, you know, giving some of the strongest chemicals to human beings when I’m eating organic food at home. And, but to my delight, I absolutely loved it, there’s something about experiencing people in transformation, you know, and lots of things can create a transformation for, for someone, it could be a health issue, it could be money problems, it could be relationship issues, of course, it doesn’t have to be something negative. But human beings tend to wait till something kicks them in the backside before they actually start to question things or move inward and start to really create a relationship with themselves. So I think I have a great love for transformative experiences. But it was during my time on the oncology floor that I began to see and hear energy, which I had had a few experiences in my life that they were usually decades in between them, you know, like, I would have an unusual experience, which I think is kind of normal for most people to have a moment in life where you go, wow, what was that? You know? But when I started working on the oncology floor, they were happening all the time constantly,
Rick Archer: like what kind of experiences?
Marie Manuchehri: Well, one of the first ones was that my patients organs began to talk to me. So I would be at the bedside nursing someone and all of a sudden their liver would be having a conversation with me about the meds that were giving them and why they actually got sick. What was the emotional reason behind their illness?
Rick Archer: It’s funny, there’s a street in Detroit called Live they pronounced it liver noise, although it should be pronounced Livernois. You know, the comedian Steve Allen once asked, What kind of noise does a liver make?
Marie Manuchehri: Right? Well, actually, when the livers not happy, it’s angry, you know. And when we look at acupuncture acupuncturist believe that the livers where we repress the most amount of anger, I have since learned that men typically repressed anger in their chest and women in their reproductive organs. And then when we reach a certain boiling point, point to that, then it goes to the liver. So that would be one of the things that would happen. And another thing would be that I had started meditating, because a year after I was on the oncology floor, my tachycardia came back. And I had already had an intensive workup. And I knew I wasn’t sick. But I knew I was stressed. So I actually joined three meditation groups, because I tried to meditate on my own, and I’m still not very good at it. And so I joined these three groups. And in one of the groups, I actually visualized this beautiful blue ball spinning in my abdomen. It was as if a camera had come out of my forehead and dropped past my esophagus and passed my aorta. And I was literally in my pelvic cavity, and I could see my ovaries and I could see my aorta, I could see blood, you know, flushing through my body. But I thought, well, I’m in a meditation, I’m studying anatomy and physiology. So I’m just having a meditative moment. And when I opened up my eyes, at the end of the meditation, I could still see this camera inside my abdominal area. And it lasted for about four or five months, I could just, I could be walking around the hospital floor, and still have this interesting experience inside my body.
Rick Archer: I don’t know if you’ve ever heard of the Yoga Sutras, but it’s written in ancient book by a sage named Patanjali. And he outlines all these abilities or cities, he calls them, which may develop at a certain stage of one’s growth. And one of them is knowledge of the bodily systems that you actually, wow, just what you’re describing that you actually perceive what’s going on in your body.
Marie Manuchehri: Wow. You know, I have not heard of that now. Wow, it sounds amazing. And another thing that happened for months on end is, I would see these beautiful golden pyramids, about an inch in diameter spinning all around me. So they were really thick, maybe over 100 of them. And they would have a humming sound. And when I would go to bed at night, I would close my eyes and wonder with the pyramids disappear when I wake up in the morning. And so before I would open my eyes in the morning, I could hear their hum. And then I would know the pyramids were there. And while all of this was happening, I didn’t tell my husband. I told the meditation groups and they thought it was very cool. And some people had were wishing it was happening to them. But I felt it there was a part of me wondering, did I have a brain tumor? Was it missionary pituitary gland, you know, was something happening to me. But at the same time I was in so much joy, I was having such a wonderful time that I didn’t care. I felt like I was having this self discovery of my own being I was I wasn’t taking care of anyone else. During those moments, I was really with myself. But ultimately, I decided to tell my supervisor at work. I was a charge nurse most days, and I was really concerned that I’d be watching the blue ball or the spinning pyramids, and someone would crash on her floor. And the charge nurses job is to call the code team, make sure the crash card gets there, all of those things, and I was really concerned that I would be distracted. So I truly thought that she would suspend me because that’s what I would have done. And I ordered a psych eval, which I was terrified at because our resident psychologists name was Dr. Sandman and I was just really scared. You know, I was going to be in One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest kind of a situation and but luckily, to my delight, and shock, she told me that she thought I was seeing energy and I needed to start laying my hands on her patients. And she mentioned things like healing tach, and chakras, which I had never studied energy medicine. And I took me about three days, but three days later, I picked the healthiest person on the floor, which of course now I think is hysterical. I had touched hundreds of patients with my stuff with the scope and with, you know, my hands to put IVs in and to move to being and all kinds of interesting things like that. But to really lay hands on someone with an intention of just being present with them, is a very different experience. And so I picked the healthiest person on the floor, she actually wasn’t even an oncology patient, she was an overflow from the surgical unit. And as soon as I did, as soon as I laid hands on her, I heard this really high pitched harp sound, which was very familiar to me. But I didn’t know where it was coming from. In fact, I started to cry right away. And I was kind of embarrassed, I opened up my eyes to look at the patient because I thought when I’m crying, she doesn’t know who I am. She wasn’t really my patient. But she had when I first walked into her room, she looked a little fearful, like maybe I was going to probe or something. But then when I asked if I could lay hands on her, she softened her face and said, Yes. And so I opened up my eyes to look at her and she was crying to us is pretty amazing experience. And during the half an hour that we spent together, I actually had visualisation of her internal organs like I had of myself. And I began to see these beautiful orbs of light show up inside of her body, which I later discovered were the chakra system. So that was my introduction, if you will, my multisensory opening happened in one of the most oddest places in the world, and oncology floor in Seattle.
Rick Archer: And then it kept unfolding from there. So yeah, that was internal organs. So where when did spirit guides come into the picture?
Marie Manuchehri: Well, shortly after that, I kept hearing auditory sounds from men and women, who I later determined were my Spirit Guides. I’ve never studied anything such as guides. And I really believe personally that everything in the universe is alive with energy and creation and God’s source, the universe is communicating to us all the time, just like our bodies communicate to us all the time. I think that different people have different comfort levels, about what feels comfortable for them, and how they may accept that type of communication. I happen to be in love with the human race. And I am I’m deeply in love with humanity. And so I have spirit guides that show up to me that look like humans. And so it started right after that, they started to talk to me about how I needed to communicate the experiences I was having at the bedside with the patients, like when someone’s body part was talking to me, or expressing to me their history, I would be standing at someone’s bedside, and I would hear information and start to see images of their childhood. And so I would hear a voice that say, tell them, you know, tell them and I wouldn’t be arguing with this voice. And I’m not gonna tell them you know, I was already really uncomfortable. I would close the door very tightly, kind of worried that a physician was going to walk in and wonder what I was doing when I didn’t even know what I was doing. But I began to listen to the voice is and I began to follow what they said. And every time I did, more wonderful things happen, nothing bad happened. People would start crying. They would start to feel more relaxed. Physicians started to ask me questions. Physicians then began to ordered me to work on their patients, which is kind of funny, and to lay hands on them. And at one point, the home I was living in, I was meditating, and I heard this woman’s voice that said she It kind of showed me images like snapshots of, if I were to walk from the couch to the den, which was my former husband’s workout room was full of equipment and weights. And so I got up and started following the images and opened the door. And then I heard that I needed to clean up this room, paint the ceiling and make it a healing room. And I thought, well, there’s no way he’s going to move his stuff out of this room. And we didn’t have another room in the house where he could move his weight since and so I, there was this back and forth, where I wouldn’t really, I would listen to the voices, but I was very hesitant. I’m kind of a skeptic, which I think is a healthy perception to have. And so I asked him, you know, could you move your stuff out of the, out of the den, and within two hours, he moved everything into the garage, no arguments, no discussion, I really think that guides are beings who are devoted to the evolution of the human species, you know, just like we have nurses and doctors and lawyers, while lawyers who are maybe, let’s say, do more of a, you know, humanitarian approach on the on the planet, that they are invested in the human consciousness or growth and expansion, where there are many beings who live in other dimensions, who are also devoted to the evolution of the human species, because in reality, we’re all one. And so if we start evolving and waking up and finding ways to delight ourselves and to be fulfilled, and heighten our frequency and our vibration, of course, it helps all of the cosmos and all the beings who live throughout all the universes.
Rick Archer: There’s a verse in the Bhagavad Gita, which says that it uses the word gods, but it’s has this whole thing about you support the gods, and they support you like this, this mutually supportive relationship, you know,
Marie Manuchehri: yeah, that’s how I feel. And that’s what was described to me that, you know, that that, that human beings really need guidance, whether it comes from a tree or a kitty cat, or some inanimate object, the stars, you know, that there’s a veil that surrounds the earth plane. And as we become more conscious, it dissipates and thins for the individual. And I actually think that right now, the human race is actually increasing their frequency so much, that the veil is thinning for all of us, which is quite beautiful. And
Rick Archer: I like that metaphor of veil too, because I’ve sometimes made the point on this show that maybe 2000 years ago, the the veil was more like a thick curtain, you know, and it was really hard to get through. And you have to be somebody like the Buddha to punch your way through this, this thick curtain. But these days, it’s much more diaphanous, you know, and, and so people are waking up right and left.
Marie Manuchehri: I think your analogy is absolutely 100% accurate. I also think the Earth was created to be the time space reality that is unique from other times space realities, where it’s physical. And there’s a lot of contrast here. But for some reason, you know, I think over the last few years, the vibration has increased so much that yes, the veil is getting thinner and thinner and thinner, which is quite amazing for all of us, because it’s such a comfort when we can listen or understand the guidance, the awareness that is there for all of us. I think it’s a great comfort.
Rick Archer: Yeah. So let me so spirit guides, let’s, let’s, let’s dwell a bit more on what they are, are they would you say the same as guardian angels?
Marie Manuchehri: I think they’re different than guardian angels. But, I mean, I can’t say I know for sure I can only express my own perception. I think that spirit guides, our I think we choose guides before we come here, I think that coming to earth is a conscious decision. And I think we spent a fair amount of time like maybe an average of four human years, you know, figuring out what what it is that we want to learn what kind of what century we want to be a part of what gender I think we even pick our parents before we come here or parental units that have a certain type of personality that will either push our buttons so that we will do inner work that we forget about when we we get here you know, we most people don’t remember their past lives. So we need to have something that reminds us of what it is we want to work on. So I think we even choose our spirit guides and they’re beings who we believe who are more evolved than we are and they have had to have what I believe to have experienced a lifetime on Earth because you know, I believe we have freewill. So we can evolve in any part of the universes that we choose to you know, I I believe in that. And so we pick these individuals and and they know everything about us they I believe they study our previous lifetimes and they know a lot about who we are. And I also don’t believe that they are part of like maybe our familiar line because I think they have to be very, very neutral.
Rick Archer: I was gonna ask you that because you watch shows on TV like the Long Island Medium, you know, Theresa Caputo who’s amazing, psychic, amazing, and you and she’s mostly dealing with relatives who have passed over and those relatives seem to have a, you know, fatherly or motherly concern for, you know, the person that’s still on the earth and they’re there helping them out and loving them and guiding them and all. But you’re saying, do you just said that? Probably those aren’t spirit guides, they because of the familial connection? Yeah.
Marie Manuchehri: I think that, you know, really even when we’re in that place where we feel most guided, when we can sense our guidance, whether we see it, hear it or feel it. Excuse me, sure. We are neutral. There’s this neutral illness that happens when we’re in that high vibrational place where we can trust the guidance. And it’s not a desperation like a family member would have. So yeah, I don’t think our family is part of our guidance system, because they’re too perhaps connected to their great grandmother or, you know, something of that nature that could be limiting for us. Yeah.
Rick Archer: So you said a minute ago that guardian angels and spirit guides would be two different things, how would you distinguish them?
Marie Manuchehri: I think guardian angels are there. And not that spirit guides aren’t there for what I’m about to say as well. But I think that guardian angels probably haven’t had a time on Earth, I think they’re a different species. And we say, This is what my perception tells me. And, um, they’re really here to help the human race, especially when they’re in very, very difficult and challenging times. And they hold this high, high frequency of compassion, that, and they can help anyone at any time there, it’s almost like their ability to be in multiple places at any time is really expansive. And that could be true of spirit guides, as well. But I think spirit guides are more like, very evolved parents who don’t have a lot of baggage and, and, and guardian angels come when we have kind of desperate times.
Rick Archer: Yeah. Kind of like avatars. You know, what avatars are?
Marie Manuchehri: You mean like from the movie?
Rick Archer: Well, no, that’s a Sanskrit word, which the movie got the word from, but it means like, like, Lord Krishna, or somebody was said to be an avatar, it’s like God takes takes a human form in desperate times in order to achieve a particular project or, you know, facilitate something that would that needs that divine intervention in order to take place. Yes, anyway, I would agree. Yeah. And now I get the impression from listening to you that or in previous recordings that I’ve listened to also that there seem to be a great many spirit guides, like people may have a minimum of three around them, and sometimes many more. So it would seem from that, that either, there are a heck of a lot more spirit guides than there are people. It’s like, heavily populated in that dimension, or the spirit guides are multitasking. You know that? Yeah. One God might be assigned to 10 people or something. So how does that work?
Marie Manuchehri: I mean, I haven’t even thought about that. But that certainly would make sense. I know, I believe that we each have a primary guide who doesn’t leave our side. And I do believe our other guides can come and go. And I always have this image that you know, because we have freewill. A human being, once a being has come into human form, they may have had an idea of what they wanted to experience and made some plans before they incarnated. But again, we have freewill, let’s say a soul said, you know, when I come off in this spirit, human form, when I kind of just associate in a way and start to have this different kind of educational experience, and also joyful experience, hopefully, that maybe that part of that soul said, you know, I’m not gonna have any kids, and then, you know, through the Incarnation, that, you know, I really want to have children. And because we have free will, anything could change at any moment. So several spirit guides go to a place that I call like, the round table, and have this negotiation, can we need some kids? You know, what does this person need to learn from this child experience? What children would do well, or what souls would do well in this family group. And so I think there is that back and forth when we make different choices. I also think when people have an opening or awareness, they may attract new guides to them. That could be permanent, but certainly temporarily, I know when I opened up and I started to gain insights into the human anatomy from an energy medicine perspective. At one time, I had 27 guides, and when I would start to work on people and lay hands on them, when I started a business, I would have that many in the room for about two years. And they told me they were teaching me information and more insight into what energy medicine meant and how I could help human beings from that perception.
Rick Archer: So sort of almost like a system upgrade. If you if you make more progress, then then the original plan for your life, then, you know, they then they have to bring in reinforcements or there’s a changing of the guard so to speak, where you’re going to get new specialists coming in to help with the news. A new situation?
Marie Manuchehri: Absolutely. Because I had an opportunity when I was 15, I could have seen someone who was an energy worker, I was actually a patient of a chiropractor. And he had an energy worker in his practice. And I, you know, at that time, I didn’t know anything about it, just like when I was 37, when I started to open up, I had no idea what energy medicine was. And my mother offered for me to go see this woman and I actually turned it down. So, you know, we have a lot of opportunities in this wonderful earth realm. And sometimes we don’t always listen to the opportunities or pay attention.
Rick Archer: Yeah. One thing I just want to interject is that I, you know, you kept you keep saying, Well, I think this and I think that I get the impression. And it’s funny, because I agree with everything you’re saying, but how do I know this stuff? Yeah, I mean, I don’t have any clear perception of it. But but I sense that you’re, obviously your perception of it is a lot more detailed and clear. The mind is by a longshot. But I, you know, I just kind of want to emphasize to the listener that I, you know, my opinion is that you’re speaking from your personal experience, rather than just philosophical speculation, or stuff you’ve read in books, you’re getting a lot of intuitive knowledge about how all
Marie Manuchehri: this works. Yeah, I’m highly intuitive. I’ve had a full time practice for 15 years, helping people intuitively, not just health issues and all kinds of issues. And I use it every day in my own life. But I don’t believe that I have all the answers or that my answers are the only way I believe we’re unique. And we’re individuals, and how we perceive life is perfect. And, and and if my way is helpful, I think that’s wonderful. But I don’t think it’s the only way.
Rick Archer: One thing that I found a little puzzling. And Tammy Simon’s interview with you those that you mentioned, I don’t know it was whether it was her spirit guides or somebody else’s, you’re referring to but said there were 74 of them there. Maybe it was Tamizh. And if I were in a room, and there were 74 actual human beings around the crowded, it would take me quite a while to count them. You know, I’d have to like check them off in the list. Okay, you get over there now. So don’t count your twice. So how in the world did you know just like that, that there was 74? Around Tammy,
Marie Manuchehri: I’m highly intuitive. So you know, I just look at someone and I know things about them. And so I looked at her, I don’t even remember the interview. Actually, I have one of these interesting things that happens to me when I’m in an intuitive reading. When I’m done. I don’t remember most of what happens. And even with my clients, I don’t take an intake form because I don’t want to know anything about them before I see them. And so when they come back to see me, which could take a year or whatnot, before I see them again, I’m not going to remember anything about them until we start to have a conversation. But yeah, I looked at Tammy, because then now I’m plugging into that moment. And I saw these beings around here and I heard 74. So that’s how I knew. Yeah, I heard a number. Yes.
Rick Archer: Okay. So you’ve been talking to me for half an hour? Is there anything you cared to divulge about me that’s suitable for public consumption?
Marie Manuchehri: If you want me to, I’m happy to if you want have, you have a lot of spirit guides around you. I would say probably about 30 an hour, maybe a few more. And just remember, the physical realm is limited to us. Like we have walls and doors. The other dimensions don’t. So they don’t have to be all crowded around you Around the computer. You know, they can seep past the walls and doors. They don’t have they’re not limited by physical space. And I will say that since we connected, I keep hearing things about your mother. I don’t know what they are. Exactly. I just know that there’s something deep about your relationship with your mother. That is pretty intense. Yeah. And so I know that I
Rick Archer: mean, oh, sure. I was pretty close to my mother. And she loved me very much. And she died maybe over 20 years ago, 25 years ago with ovarian cancer. But she had a bit of a rough life. My father was an alcoholic, and he was very abusive, although he was wonderful in his own regard, I could sing his praises. But she ended up in nada mental hospitals for most of my teen years and was and tried to commit suicide three times. And then eventually, I I more or less strong armed her into learning meditation and at first, but then at a certain point it took and she really got into it. And she came over to Switzerland and spent nine months around the marshy and with me and, and everything and it really had a transformative effect on her. So I had this burning desire to somehow get her out of this horrible situation that she was in and I was very gratified when, you know, she really blossomed like
Marie Manuchehri: that. Wow. What a beautiful story.
Rick Archer: I’m sure she’d be very proud of me with what I’m doing. So you know, it was like when I’m sure that was my one of my biggest fans. Of course, mothers are like that.
Marie Manuchehri: I know. Right? Well, and I think mothers have a lot of compassion. So So what happened as soon as I saw you, I keep feeling one of your deepest wounds, you know, because of all and I didn’t know the story behind it, if I had plugged in a little bit more I could have been out of respect. You know, when I’m in a public place, or things of that nature, I do my best not to get too involved with people’s energy plus, I would never be able to order the right coffee when I’m although I don’t drink coffee, the right tea when I was at Starbucks, or I would buy the wrong food if I was at Safeway, or wherever, because I would be taking care of people. But yeah, I kept hearing the word mother, I’m also a medium. So I’m sure we’ll be chatting her up shortly. She’s a little shy, actually. Which is kind of interesting.
Rick Archer: In a way, she was also a ham. I mean, she was really goofy, funny person. And she was, she could be a real cut up, you know, sometimes, but
Marie Manuchehri: I think when there’s a large audience, though, I think it makes her uncomfortable probably would have, yeah, not, not just, you know, a few family members. It was her distraction, that humor was how she kept everybody not asking too many questions. But I think a large audience would make her uncomfortable. And that is something she’s very proud of you about, you know, that, that it doesn’t stop you. And all the potential things that could arise in an interview, you know, that you actually are intrigued by it, and curious, and she loves that she thinks that you’re in your calling is.
Rick Archer: Yeah, I’ll tell you a funny story. When one time I was lecturing up in Rochester, New York, and I had a big audience like 500 people. And my mother was sitting in the front row, I was giving a lecture about TM intro lecture. And somebody in the audience raised her hand and said, What does this do for your sex life? And I said, Well, looking at my dear mother’s face sitting in the front row, I can only say that I’m totally unqualified to answer that question. Wow. Cracked everybody up. Incidentally, so as we talk, you know, I don’t I wouldn’t consider it invasive. If you pick up on anything about me. You know, obviously, it may not be some things that are suitable for public consumption, but I’m an open book. So. So most people are totally unaware of their spirit guides, you know? So is that an impediment at all to their spirit guide, helping them? And how can the experimenter? Spirit God help them if they’re totally oblivious to their existence? What are the mechanics of that?
Marie Manuchehri: No, I don’t think that that is limiting. I think what’s most limiting for human beings is their addiction to their thoughts, and their overthinking, and they’re over analyzing their reprocessing. I think that is their biggest stumbling block to living a fulfilled and wonderful life. I think that we we think that our intellect has this, you know, highly evolved perception of us and has all the answers when I think it’s actually the opposite. I think that the ego resides in the brain, and it’s drenched in fear. And the more we analyze and process things, the more limited we are, I think, literally by getting out of the brain and dropping into the body and being present, either at the solar plexus or the second chakra, which is my absolute favorite, then we can actually hear or sense guidance. And it doesn’t have to be a determined spirit guide. I think that the knowingness that we have inside of us is quite profound, any any involved. And I do think spirit guides do talk to us constantly. I’ll tell this one story, it’s associated to that healing room. And so all the equipment was removed. And now I found myself meeting, massage table and all the trimmings. And of course, I’m, I’m a self taught healer. And my teachers had come from the non physical realm, the majority of them. And so I’m trying to talk my frugal husband at the time into all this equipment. It was like $1,000. And this was like, 1997. So it’s kind of with three kids. And he’s looking at me kind of oddly, like, why I’m getting this stuff. I don’t know, I just have to get it and, and he doesn’t even know yet of all the things that I’m seeing, hearing and feeling. And all of a sudden, we hear a knock at the door and one of his friends is there. And I’m thinking, Okay, I’m not going to get this equipment now, because his friend was also very frugal, and they often complained about how much money their wives spend. So he comes into the house and for some weird reason, convinces my former husband into buying everything and I wanted a stationary table. So it was a little bit more expensive than a portable one. So to my delight, he orders everything. And a few months later, after I’d been doing some work at home on clients, his friend was diagnosed with a brain tumor. And I worked on him for several months before he had a surgery. And then I was able to go into the critical care unit postoperatively because of my nursing background and work on him, right after his surgery, you know, moments after he came out of the O R, and he had a complete recovery. And you know, I I believe the surgeons did an amazing job and you know, but I think enrich You medicine can be very helpful. I often think that all of our spirit guides were having conversations with each other, you know, like, even when I asked my former husband to move his stuff out of the den, and I think his spirit guides were talking to him and saying, you know, we just fit nicely into the garage, you’re probably going to like the cool air because it’s so hot when you’re working out. And then his friend when he came over, you know, I think his spirit guides are going you may not know this, but you’re gonna get a not a fun diagnosis pretty soon. And you might need some table time on on this table. So. So I don’t think we have to have this awareness of communicating with our spirit guides. But I do think we have to be present. And we have to feel where neutrality is, we often are allowed drama to guide our lives, rather than that calm, presence, stillness. That, I think is what guidance guidance is all about.
Rick Archer: That’s nice that you just asked, you just answered the next question I was going to ask, which is that? You know, it seems like there’s this orchestration, obviously, our lives are intertwined with everyone else’s lives. And so a spirit guide spirit guides couldn’t be exclusively focused on us, they have to have the broader picture, right? And so and they must collaborate with one another somehow, in order to orchestrate all the interactions and meetings and, you know, and whatnot, that workout our destiny.
Marie Manuchehri: Yes, yeah, I think so. And, you know, so that afternoon, both of those men were having fun talking about me buying this weird stuff that I didn’t even know what I was going to do with it. And I think in their, in feeling that flow and that comfort, you know, that they didn’t know what it was gonna lead to? Neither did I. And I think that’s what following what is in our highest good is all about, it’s following the flow of life. And it doesn’t make a lot of intellectual meaning at the time, it doesn’t make any sense at all, from the, from the minds perspective, but there’s a felt experience that we have, when we are in the flow of higher consciousness.
Rick Archer: Yeah, we were talking earlier about how one might upgrade one’s great guides, if you, you know, make significant spiritual progress or something. So that’s kind of a related question. Do really highly evolved souls, people need spirit guides, since they’re kind of in tune with their own higher self or with the divine anyway? Or is it somehow one in the same that, that they would still have them? Go ahead and answer,
Marie Manuchehri: I’ve heard that it’s best to allow guidance before you incarnate again, we have free Well, we get to make all those decisions ourselves. I don’t. I mean, I think that we do have different levels of consciousness here on the planet clearly. But I also think that we, when we reach a certain point of pointed consciousness, we don’t necessarily reincarnate back to the earth realm, you know, so, of course, we can look at beings like Buddha and Christ and, and others who obviously were extremely evolved when they came here. And so evolved beings do come here. But I don’t think it’s the common destination when you’re really evolved.
Rick Archer: Yeah, well, to take Buddha and Christ as examples. Would Buddha and Christ if had spirit guides, you know, someone of their stature, their caliber, who were really one with God? Or would it be unnecessary for them?
Marie Manuchehri: I think the physical reality can be very challenging, especially when you’re being, you know, hurt physically harmed, you know, or when you’re witnessing, you know, physical discomfort in the world. You know, I think it can be very challenging. No matter how evolved, you are, when you’re in the physical body, your your experience is very different, even for people who are quite aware, it’s hard sometimes to disconnect from all the chaos and the challenges that are happening on the earth plane. And so I think our guides can help us with that. But I’m sure it’s an individual choice. You know,
Rick Archer: you may not know this, but do you think that someone like Christ had sort of spirit guides or some higher entities at his beck and call to such profound degree as to enable him to have walked on water or manifested Loaves and Fishes or something like that? Why not? Maybe that’s the mechanics through which you
Marie Manuchehri: write because I think the more aware we become to because I believe everyone is multisensory, I believe everyone has natural gifts and talents. And so through our elevation and vibration and frequency and consciousness, that we allow those gifts and talents to come into our awareness. But yeah, I mean, I can’t say for sure, but I would imagine that, you know, when, especially when, you know, Christ came to earth during the time that he did, you know, having guides probably felt like a good idea, you know, because it was a challenging time to be so evolved on the planet. However, I believe that what he brought His true teachings, you know, is probably is what has allowed us to be where we are in our frequencies. Now. That institution Absolutely.
Rick Archer: Does spirit guides speak to us through dreams,
Marie Manuchehri: they can speak to you through anything, even food,
Rick Archer: sometimes more open in the sleep state, you know, in the dream state, they don’t have the usual walls and defenses up, right. So
Marie Manuchehri: I think everyone’s unique, I don’t remember my dreams. And unless they’re, I’ve remembered maybe a handful of pre cognitive dreams. So I don’t really, that’s not my way of experiencing, I think everyone’s unique. And I also think the more we expand in our consciousness, the possibility of how we may receive information is going to change, because our auric field just gets bigger and bigger, and we start to move in the molten University. So however someone is right now, that could actually change for them, they may have a very another added element to their ability to experience awareness that goes beyond what they might be experiencing right now.
Rick Archer: Does the same set of spirit guides? Are some of them stay with us through many incarnations? Or do we get a whole new batch each lifetime?
Marie Manuchehri: It’s again, the individual choice, and also the spirit guides have free? Well, so it’s, it’s kind of a big job. I mean, you and I have probably been spirit guides for other humans, believe it or not. And so it’s it’s just depends on the guides to do they want to do that. Again, sometimes when I’m reading energy for a client, I can tell her that one or two of their spirit guides, that they have known each other for a very, very, very long time, and they have been guides for each other in other lifetimes.
Rick Archer: Again, you just answered my next question, you are intuitive. Can spirit guides be reborn as humans? And vice versa? You just answered it?
Marie Manuchehri: Absolutely. In fact, it’s, I think it’s a requirement. If you’re gonna guide someone in human form, you need to know what the potential experience could be. And that’s why I think Ark, angels don’t hold human form, so that they can hold that very high frequency of helping us during our darkest times, and not be affected by the human condition.
Rick Archer: Yeah, to me, it would stand to reason that there are levels of creation, which don’t need to have direct interaction with human beings, they have other jobs to do. Spirit guides are more of a, you know, direct interface kind of with us.
Marie Manuchehri: Absolutely. Yes, absolutely.
Rick Archer: Are spirit guides always right? Or like us? Can they err in their judgment?
Marie Manuchehri: Well, you know, they have a lot of information. So first of all, they study your previous lifetimes before you incarnate, they know from a souls perspective, what it is that you want to learn and know and experience. And so they know a lot about you before you incarnate and of course, they’ve connected with you. And to me, all of this is through God consciousness. You know, I think that I think that creation is everything. And so they’re very connected to the Divine mob. They’re having this interaction before you incarnate. So I think that their accuracy is very high. But I also believe that they first and foremost respect you and any decision you make, so if they’re saying, you know, collectively go left, go left, go left, as you’re making a decision, and the individual decides to go right, then I think all the spirit guides, Okay, everybody, she’s going right, and they just love and respect and support you, no matter what decision you make. Because we can learn anything, under any circumstances. You know, we’re here to have life experiences. And it’s all perfect. You know, we can’t really make a mistake.
Rick Archer: I’ll ask you more questions about that in a while. But you know how there’s that cartoon where you have an angel on one shoulder and a devil on the other. And they’re kind of arguing with each other trying to get you to do one thing or the other? I mean, are there kind of the counterpart to spirit guides, which have a negative intention, and which tend to want to lead us astray while the Spirit guides are trying to get us going in the right direction?
Marie Manuchehri: Right? That’s a great question. Personally, I don’t think so. I think that we already live on one of the lowest time space realities and all of the cosmos, I think the earth realm is a pretty low frequency, time, space reality. I think our ego. And our fear is that other devil being that inner through our terror and our fear of I think we’re really afraid of our magnificence. That’s what I think. And so that that’s the other voice that we might be listening to, but that won’t if we can get into neutrality and and be neutral. And whenever we’re making a decision if there’s a neutral feeling to it, that’s when I believe we’re connected to guidance and what is in the highest good for all involved, not just our ego selves,
Rick Archer: neutral meaning we’re sort of in a state of equanimity and we’re not longing or attached or repulsed or anything we’re in a more balanced state you mean
Marie Manuchehri: Yeah, we’re calm, kind of there’s a calmness about it. Yeah. Yeah.
Rick Archer: Some people I know, you’ve never really had a teacher, right, so much an earthly teacher, maybe you’ve had some sense, but, you know, some people will have a really close relationship with a spiritual teacher or a guru or some such thing. Would for them? Would a spirit guide be so necessary since they have more of a kind of a divine human, you know, guidance guidance? Or would they alternate spirit guides,
Marie Manuchehri: I think they also need spirit guides to because spiritual teachers, although I haven’t had the joy of having someone like that, in my life, I’ve always wanted one, actually, but it just hasn’t happened for me. You know, a lot of times they’re speaking to the masses
Rick Archer: is true, and they can’t do a lot of personal attention. Right. And so your spirit guides
Marie Manuchehri: are just there for you. You know,
Rick Archer: yeah, I have a good friend, who I’ll talk about a little bit more later, who has a lot of subtle perception and sees this stuff all the time. And he went to see Alma, up when she came to Iowa a couple of years ago, and he said that she was just swarmed with all kinds of, you know, subtle beings that were around and very happy to be in her presence, and also sort of, I guess, involved in the lives of the people. They’re amazing. Yeah. If we kind of ignore our spirit guides, you know, consistently, do they tend to back off? And conversely, if we, if we kind of listen to them and attune ourselves to their guidance, does that intent does that attunement grow and the guidance come through more clearly? In other words, can you kind of like dial it down? Or clarify according to how you respond to the prompt?
Marie Manuchehri: I think that’s a great question. That yes, if if, let’s say over and over again, or guidances, is saying one thing, and we keep ignoring it and pushing it away, out of respect for us, they stop, because, you know, so we have free will. And so they don’t want to, you know, I’ve had clients who have said to me, you know, I keep asking this one question, and I just don’t hear an answer for it. And, and I, and I will say to them, I go well, do you have an idea of what the answer should be? And they’ll say, Yes, of course. And I go, Well, if you’re not getting an answer from it, then probably the answer that’s in your highest good is not what you think it is. And that’s just a whole nother part of really listening to guidance getting out of the way. Because we are a part of a phenomenal universe universes actually. And, and so the potentiality is huge. I mean, so many things could potentially happen to us individually collective, you know, within the entire cosmos beyond anything that we could possibly imagine. And yet many times we’re again, stuck in the linear mind. And so we can’t even potentially perceive what could happen, that would be in our best interest.
Rick Archer: Yeah. The animals have spirit guides.
Marie Manuchehri: I think so I think when your spirit guides, I know, my cat fan has had a lot of guidance to make sure that he gets through all of his nine lives, because he’s always in some sort of mischievious trouble, but he magically gets out of it. So I would imagine he has a lot of guidance for him. Yeah.
Rick Archer: Just as you said, that, just the thought came to mind that, you know, it relates to things you’ve been saying, but that we really do live in an intelligent universe. I mean, there is no particle of creation, large or small, which is not permitted with divine intelligence. So really, everything is just this cosmic play, you know,
Marie Manuchehri: everything’s alive.
Rick Archer: Yeah. And maybe we’ll talk a little bit more about the kind of the hierarchical nature of creation and all that might be dwelling on different levels. Here’s the question, what do you want to comment on that before I go on?
Marie Manuchehri: Now, you said it beautifully.
Rick Archer: Okay. So here’s the question. So in the course of someone’s spiritual evolution, does everyone eventually become aware of their spirit guides? Or is that kind of a special ability? Like musical ability, for instance? Because, you know, I know people who are highly I consider highly enlightened or self realized, who don’t have this kind of subtle perception. I know people who have subtle perception who probably aren’t that self realized. And then there are people who have both. So is it an aptitude which not everyone is going to have? And what determines whether or not we develop it?
Marie Manuchehri: I think it’s about what works for the person. You know, I think we’re very unique. You know, we’re all a part of, you know, God consciousness, and I think we’re very unique and maybe someone doesn’t want to have this awareness of their spirit guides or I really don’t know I think about I think that whatever It brings out the best in the individual is what they need to be focused on and not think not compare contrast one person’s experience versus another’s person’s experience. I, I think too, if someone really wants an experience, I mean from a, not from a desperation, but from a true, I would really like that kind of experience, then I think that they can have that, especially if they heighten their frequency. So a lot about sensing outside of the physical realm is about vibration. You know, before we went live, you asked me if I meant, I’ve always been a positive person.
Rick Archer: Yes, you seem such a totally upbeat, positive person. Right.
Marie Manuchehri: And I am, you know, and I always have been, I think that allows me to sense you know, beings and other energies that are outside of the human realm because they vibrate at a more subtle frequency. And so a lot of what people experience has to do with their own vibration. And a lot of humans vibrate in conflict and challenge in difficulty. And it makes it harder to actually sense those subtle energies. If your vibration is lower, also, a lot of human beings tend to run their energy like this. So they may fall, up and down, they may fall in and out of love, all day long with things, you know, like, one moment, they’re looking at their animal or a beloved human in their life, and they feel oh, and then the next one, that they’re thinking about a bill and they drop their energy. And then in one moment, again, they might be thinking of the holidays, that they like the holidays, and then they’re looking at their credit card statement, or no, it’s or the traffic or whatever. And so to sense, subtle energies, it requires a subtle frequency. And, and sometimes people will have experiences like, you perhaps maybe have had moments where you sense to your mother around you a little bit. Yeah, yeah.
Rick Archer: Actually, my wife had one. After after my mother died, we were sitting in her hospital room. And, you know, she was her body was there. And, and, you know, Irene had a very clear experience of her kind of like, getting free and kind of rejoicing. And then at one point, she said, Hello, I mean, kind of like, yeah, I was just feeling ironically, I was feeling very deep bliss and depth of awareness, as if I was partaking in her freedom or something. I mean, some people will be grief stricken or something when their mother died, I felt a liberation because I was sharing my mother’s liberation. And she was good to go. I mean, she was she wanted to get out of that body. So anyway, rambling here, but no,
Marie Manuchehri: I think what you’ve described is perfect. So everybody’s frequency was up, even though this woman had just passed away, you because you also had worked really hard on this relationship, and you had come to a place in the relationship where it was loving and respectful and fun and interesting, despite all the hardships, I mean, that’s a huge accomplishment. And so your vibration was elevated, you got to be with this moment, you know, during her passing, you got to celebrate her, you got to say goodbye. Um, you probably also have some different perceptions about death on the other side. And she also was suffering at the time. And, and so you knew that when she left her body, she would be liberated. So you and Irene were vibrating your frequencies and a higher place, you could feel your mother in her bliss, because most people do feel bliss when they leave their bodies. And Irene actually had a glimpse of her, which is not an uncommon thing, when people are at peace in someone’s passing, that is a neutral energy, and they can start to expand their frequencies pretty rapidly. And so they can have a moment with that individual. Now, if people would do that, throughout their lifetime, but most people get very sad when they think of their loved ones, they get depressed, they, you know, that’s the typical response. And that’s why they don’t have these interactions as often as I would like, or sometimes never. Most people on the other side are so looking forward to the Earth’s realm, expanding its frequency, because they can see us whenever they want to, and hear us and they know what’s going on with our lives because our vibration is within their frequency. So they’re looking forward to the time when more human beings expand their vibration so that they can have these moments that their loved ones and feel at peace and know that that person is wonderful, and how could they not be there on the other side, you know, it’s a pretty dynamic place.
Rick Archer: It’s funny, but I had the same experience with when my father died, but I didn’t know he had died. I was having this incredible day and I was feeling so blissful. And I was thinking, What is going on? I feel wonderful. And then like, you know, later in the afternoon, I discovered my father had died the night before. So it was like somehow there was this karmic release or something or again, I was partaking in his freedom.
Marie Manuchehri: Right. And you have such a love for spirituality, that people on the other side consents that they can tell when individuals have a belief system outside of mainstream consciousness. And so your father when he was flying by you, he could expand that energy with you, especially when he was embodying more particles than he typically was, especially when the body is dying, people’s energy is very, very depleted because they’re trying to actually, they’re waiting for the NEF organs to shut down or systems to collapse so that their energy system can vacate the physical.
Rick Archer: I’m not sure what happened either he was mugged. But the the official explanation was that he fell down drunk and hit his head on the sidewalk, but he was It was sudden,
Marie Manuchehri: well, except for your father didn’t take good care of himself. So his his energy was actually very depleted by the time he died. You know, I mean, he was one of those people that he could have died many, many times before, you know, his body was not healthy at all. So So when he escaped fight lose, I was trying to find a way to escape your dad was by the way. Yeah. Right? Then he felt so great. And you could say, oh, my gosh, my son is vibrating on this frequency or can so let me go over here and expand my molecules with him. And oh, my gosh, we’re gonna have a blissful moment, which is such a, I think it’s so freeing for humans, when they have that type of an experience, you know, with a loved one, especially not knowing that he had passed, but knowing that you connected vibrationally during that time, it’s heaven. It’s very freeing, and having it’s really beautiful.
Rick Archer: I have a friend that I alluded to earlier, and when I first discovered that he was perceiving all these things, like he, you know, he would see clusters of beings all around attending to people. And that was his his everyday reality. I first found out about that I got really curious, I started asking him all these questions. And, you know, we’re, we were like in this elevator in the airport together, and I said, are there any here in the elevator? And he just kind of smiled. And then afterwards, when he got out, he said, they just said to me said, Don’t point us out to people. If we’re meant this, if they’re meant to see us, they’ll see us. So my question is, the gods really want us to see them? Or is it better that they do their work, sort of, you know, behind the scenes, and, you know, if we are eventually meant to see them, we will, but it’s better just let them do their thing.
Marie Manuchehri: So really great question. I love your questions. By the way, I think that when the veil was really thick, and it was thick, because humans were not ready for expanded consciousness. And in fact, we had a lot of institutions filled with people who we thought were crazy. Now someone like myself can have a job, talking to people that nobody else can see, you know, and it’s a different reality. I think we are meant to be guided, I think we’re meant to have an awareness of what’s in our highest good, whether it’s someone says that that’s a spirit guide who’s communicating to them, or tree or the cosmos, I do think that we’re meant to have more than our human perception as we make decisions about life and move forward. I think of all this decisions I’ve made in my life, since the moment I became aware that I could hear and see and feel energy are very different than the decisions I made prior. And again, there’s no right or wrong, there’s no mistake, we’re all learning consciously. But my life is 100 times improved, I’m happier and more fulfilled. I’ll give you an example. So I believe that our emotions are connected to the second layer of the auric field. So we have this beautiful aura that that surrounds us. And then in truth, the auric field extends throughout infinity. So there’s no end right to our energy system, just like the chakra system extends throughout infinity. But the second layer of the auric field is called the emotional response center. And it’s the emotional response center for each individual. So the heart chakra is where we feel other people and other scenarios, but where we feel ourselves is from the second chakra because it connects to this layer of the energy system.
Rick Archer: Quickly asked you Yeah, have you continued, but um, you said something about the second chakra earlier and you said That’s your favorite chakra. But I don’t know a lot about chakras. But I was heard, I’ve always heard that that’s sort of the Sexual Chakra, you know, associated with sexual desires and stuff. So there must be more to it than that and the way you’re using the term, so please explain that as you go along.
Marie Manuchehri: No, no, it’s great. Actually, I love all the chakras, but I will often say like, right, yes, every time I talked about when I go, Oh, my God is my favorite. But yes, you’re right. The second chakra governs key things in the human world. So career resources, intimate partnership, close personal friends and creativity. I call it the juicy chakra, and it embodies the emotion of joy. When human beings connect to this vortex. It’s also a place where Kundalini energy energy enters, and that is part of passion, which of course could be sexuality, but people are meant to feel and passionate when they’re looking at a tree on Hokhmah
Rick Archer: doesn’t doesn’t look Kundalini kind of ordinarily depicted as being coiled at the root chakra at the base. Yeah. asleeping serpent so to speak, and then it begins to rise up.
Marie Manuchehri: Yeah, I see it entering through the front of the second chakra. And when people have their Kundalini open, which not very many people do on the planet, by the way, it then moves at the spine in that figure eight serpent to view it looks like this electric blue light that enters into the occiput activates the hormones in the brain at the back of the head, the back of the head where that bump is, activates the hypothalamus and the pituitary gland activates psychic sight and intuition. And so as a healer, Kundalini is an important energy I believe to run I think everyone should run Kundalini anyway, personally, how do you run it? Well, I think through joy and passion, quite frankly, I think, I whenever I see a healthy second chakra, I always have an image of Woodstock in my head. So I’ll see people having as if I was at Woodstock, you know, indiscriminate sex, peeing and on bushes and having skinny dipping in big mud baths. And what it really means is that to run Kundalini is to be free. You know,
Rick Archer: I almost went to Woodstock. We had tickets, but my band had some gig and we couldn’t go first. And then we couldn’t get there because the New York State Thruway had become a parking lot. But when you mentioned Woodstock, you know, yeah, free and full expression and all but it was, you know, quite decadent in a way or, you know,
Marie Manuchehri: the most celebrated musical.
Rick Archer: There were a lot of, you know, casualties from that lifestyle people, you know, ending up totally burning out or even becoming psychotic from drug use. So unbridled.
Marie Manuchehri: Well think of it.
Rick Archer: Hedonism.
Marie Manuchehri: Well think of it as a metaphor, it doesn’t mean that you have to go out and have indiscriminate sex or take LSD, in order to open up your Kundalini. But you need to allow yourself to be free. You know, and, and, yeah, what does that mean to the individual, it’s a personal experience. Real freedom is,
Rick Archer: of course, there’s a, there’s always a balance between doing whatever you feel moved to do, and societal constraints and marital restraints, and moral restraints, and so on and so forth. So you do have to find that balance. You’re not advocating just
Marie Manuchehri: know right now. But I do think that when people feel their their authentic joy in their bodies, like, like, for instance, nursing, you know, intellectually that made absolutely no sense to me. It was, it was actually my husband’s because I think it’d be make a really great nurse because when he graduated from engineering school, I was jealous that he had a degree and I didn’t, and it was, I think he should go be a nurse. Like, why this doesn’t make any sense. Because no, I think you’d be really good at it. And I think that you would like it. So my mind is telling me he’s next. But I decided to go ahead and take some science classes. And that’s when I found that I fell in love with it. I also would have been had no idea that that’s where I would open up and create a completely different career. But I think Kundalini and freedom is about joy, authentic joy. And the first time I walked into a hospital as an adult, before I went to nursing school, I was pregnant with my first child, we were living in a really small town in Oregon. And my OB GYN didn’t have a phlebotomist in that office, and I needed to have labs drawn for
Rick Archer: pregnancy. So I’m Labine blood, an analyst, right? Yes,
Marie Manuchehri: thank you. So I walk into the hospital and I was one of these little turn around doors. And I’m in my mind, I’m thinking I’m not going to like this because my family so holistic, and it was so against conventional doctors. In fact, I don’t think she’s seen a conventional physician in over 50 years. And she’s fairly healthy, she looks lovely. So I’m walking into this turnaround. And I am immediately filled with bliss, immediately filled with bliss. And it wasn’t till years later that I put it all together that there I have this. There’s something about being in hospitals and medicine, that allows me to be on my path. It allows me to connect, there’s something in my history or my previous lifetimes, or this knowingness that comes over me because I’m connecting to something that brings me enormous joy. And that’s an again, an individual thing. So when we allow ourselves to be in our freedom, and we can sense what real passion is for us, whatever that is for us, and we walk in that direction. I think that’s how we live full, meaningful lives.
Rick Archer: And this is a personal question which we can edit out if you’d like but I was wondering whether your breakup with your husband had anything to do with the, the flourishing of your spiritual capabilities, you know, whether you somehow outpaced him in terms of your spiritual orientation, and it no longer became appropriate for you to be together because of that.
Marie Manuchehri: It’s a really great question. In fact, I often when Should I have talked more about it in the interview with Tammy Simon? Yeah. Well, it was a challenging marriage to begin with. And when we talked about how I have this kind of upbeat personality, which I do, I realized, and while I was married, that I didn’t really know how I was feeling. I mean, I feel other people, and I certainly know what they’re feeling. But I really hadn’t asked myself personal questions. And when I discovered that blue ball on my abdomen, and I started meditating with it, I asked myself, if I was in love with my husband, why am I in an oncology nurse, and in my happy, and when I sat with that blue ball, because it’s in the second chakra is where it was, for me connected to our emotional part of ourselves. I didn’t know the answers. And I was like, embarrassed and kind of shocked that I had no idea if I was even happy. So I started to just sit in this abdominal area, which I found out while working with my clients that a lot of people aren’t comfortable with knowing what they feel, you know, they, maybe they, again, I think it is this gateway to freedom to know what we’re really feeling about things. And so finally, I got the answers that took me a while, and I was married at the time. So all of this happened while I was married. And I heard that I was not in love with him. I wasn’t happy. And even though I love nursing, it wasn’t my true passion. And so knowing that helped me to make different decisions, and I believe opening up intuitively allowed me to see my marriage more authentically. And instead of trying to fix it, and make it better, I just then decided that I could walk away from it. And it was, again, having that awareness to my insights, and what was what was really going on for me feeling guidance, I was able to make decisions that were in my highest good and ultimately everyone’s highest good.
Rick Archer: Yeah, I was gonna say, I bet you your husband is kind of better off in a way now.
Marie Manuchehri: Absolutely. And our children too. Yeah, absolutely.
Rick Archer: So was it a relatively smooth and easy transition for you? Or were you still conflicted because there’s so much and trench to kind of, you know, experience.
Marie Manuchehri: For me, it was kind of funny. I was, of course, getting counseling at the time, because I was married for 20 years. And you know, I’m getting a divorce and I’m becoming this a woowoo. Lady. And, you know, my life was a little bit chaotic in that way. But I was so incredibly happy and blessed out. I mean, to see a chakra is still one of my greatest joys. And oh, on everyone, constantly, yeah, constantly, including
Rick Archer: over Skype, or more like, yeah, I have clients who don’t have to be in person. Right now.
Marie Manuchehri: I have clients around the world. I do Skype every day. So. So I was in this blissed out mood, very, very happy. In fact, my counselor kept telling me, I needed to smile less around my kids, because they weren’t, you know, they were obviously having a hard time. And it was a very tumultuous divorce. We both fought for custody, and the house and everything. So it was a very difficult divorce. But I was actually, most of the time, thankfully, because of the energy medicine part that was just blossoming in my life. I was distracted from it and was able to make really good decisions rather than I was able to support myself emotionally. Rather than supporting my former husband, which I had done for 20 years, I was able to take care of myself and do what was in my highest good.
Rick Archer: Nice. Maria and I sat down, we started talking and she brought up my mother. And it was she’s saying some interesting things. So I thought, What the heck what we should record this stuff, too. So she said that she saw her Caesar standing right behind me wearing a night gown, which is symbolic of having passed away in a healthcare facility of some
Marie Manuchehri: kind, right? Yeah. And she, she has a birthday cake actually in her hand. And so that would mean that someone’s birthday is either yours or your wife’s perhaps or I don’t know if you guys have children is within a six week time period. So like, right about now,
Rick Archer: or or wife’s birthday is February 8. That’s just about six weeks. Okay.
Marie Manuchehri: Great. Yeah. So it’s a fairly large cake, by the way. Yeah. So she’s has that she must have felt some endearing feelings towards Irene, you know, is that true? Yeah.
Rick Archer: And wouldn’t she died 25 years ago, wouldn’t she have been reincarnated? But now?
Marie Manuchehri: Well, most people wait about 100 Earth years before they incarnate, although the earth plane is really heating up. And I mean, obviously, we’re populated by nearly 7 billion human souls in our spirits, even if even if she has incarnated but I don’t believe she has. She doesn’t want to incarnate until you return is what she says.
Rick Archer: In other words, until I’m reincarnating, again,
Marie Manuchehri: right until you go to the other side and sit down and say hey, do you want to incarnate again together or what do you want to do? Because we have free will. We don’t have to. We can incarnate with whomever we want to we tend to incarnate Eat with family members, members. That’s what everybody pushes our buttons so quickly, you know really fast, right? But we have freewill, pardon, we have
Rick Archer: karma with these people family do Yeah, we will we have karma that’s
Marie Manuchehri: very similar, I may not even be with the same people. But our patterns are very, very similar. And so we’re trying to heal, whatever the karma is, like, let’s say someone wants to learn to be more empowered. And so we choose parental units, if you will, that will help us to be more empowered. So that’s why we don’t always incarnate with the same people, but the same themes are going to be there. Most people do incarnate with their family members over and over and over again. So
Rick Archer: why would a person incarnate with someone who is going to let’s say sexually abused them or beat them or, you know, be a really rotten parent, what would be the evolutionary purpose in that choice,
Marie Manuchehri: a great opportunity to learn to be authentically empowered, regardless of what happened to you, or your perception, or the Earth’s realms perception of, of how unempowered you are, or how horrific your experiences are, because true, authentic power has nothing to do with anyone else, or what happened to us. It has to do with our relationship with ourselves and what we believe, how we believe we are and who we are.
Rick Archer: Yeah, I think that kind of question, you know, comes to the mind of many people who have a hard time believing in God at all, for one thing, aside from all this other stuff that you’re talking about, because, you know, they can’t reconcile that with Auschwitz, you know, or with, with, you know, some of the terrible things which we don’t need to enumerate, which which happened to people routinely there. I mean, there’s, there’s more slaves in the world now than there have been at any time. So, you know, sexual or labor slaves or other kinds of little children are kidnapped from Nepal and forced into slavery in Bombay and stuff. So, you know, it’s like, people wonder, How could there be a compassionate God? Or how could How can the universe be in the interest of our evolution, it just seems like such a, such a dark place.
Marie Manuchehri: It is a dark place, the earth realm is one of the lowest times base realities and all of the cosmos. And we consciously know that and choose to come here, I don’t believe we have more slaves than we’ve ever had before. I think there are definitely more slaves
Rick Archer: to feel like 23 million people in slavery right now. Right? There’s this whole thing where, um, I just met with the Pope and some other religious leaders to have this whole discussion about eradicating slavery or diminishing it?
Marie Manuchehri: Well, how I kind of look at it is that we’re actually kinder than we’ve ever been to each other, we’re living closer than we ever have been. But we have less violence on the planet that we’ve had before. I mean, think of the Dark Ages, those 500 years, we were extremely violent with each other extremely violent.
Rick Archer: So burned at the stake for what you’re doing. Absolutely. Yeah.
Marie Manuchehri: I mean, you lose a hand for stealing a loaf of bread, right to feed yourself. So I think our compassion has actually increased because our evolutionary processes increased. But this is the planet of contrast, and as a sol, sol Sol is this huge, incredible, you know, part of ourselves that has a lot of very evolved pieces and doesn’t believe in death, or even suffering, but knows that we are choosing if we choose to incarnate in a place like Earth, that we’re choosing, especially for having a challenging life to like to be sexually abused, or murdered, or tortured, or anything like that, that when we’re consciously making that decision, that that is a possibility of probability or something that we really want to have. It’s an experience that we’re wanting to have from that moment that we’re in, we’re connected with our soul. So we forget all about that and how horrific it is, and that everything’s eternal, when we’re in the physical form, of course, but that could be part of what we’re trying to move through is any limitations we have of ourselves?
Rick Archer: Yeah. So to summarize, then your what you’re saying is that having something horrific happened to you some kind of abuse or torture or something like that, in the big picture, if we really had the big picture, we would see it as being in service of our ultimate evolution. It’s not like we’ve we’re just falling into bad times, and it’s meaningless suffering, but there is some evolutionary significance to it.
Marie Manuchehri: Absolutely. You said it beautifully. I even think something like the Holocaust was helping the human race to recognize that we cannot believe in one person, you know, that, that we can’t just follow one individual and their belief system. That is, you know, that horrific things can happen when we do that.
Rick Archer: Yeah, I was thinking about that tragic massacre in Pakistan the other day when the Taliban came in and murdered all those children. And I was, I was thinking, but it’s interesting to see now the reaction of the world and of Pakistan to that, and it’s sort of like okay, This is it, we’re just not going to tolerate this anymore. It’s sort of like maybe those children made a sacrifice so that such evil can really be eradicated, you know, once and for all.
Marie Manuchehri: I do think souls, you know, look at that they’re looking at their personal experience, but they’re also looking at, well, within my personal experience, can it globally affect all of humanity? So absolutely. And, you know, Karma can be shifted at any moment through consciousness. But a lot of times when people come to earth, they’re wanting to have physical experiences to heal their karma. And I just don’t, I kind of look at it, I think souls are so precious and so profound, and to come and have a lifetime here. Regardless of how horrific it may look from the human perception that I think we need to have a lot more sacred appreciation for the choices that people make and honor that, rather than thinking that it’s horrible. I mean, I think we have to still have our compassion so we can make choices that are different, and help, you know, with the evolution of awareness, but I like to want to hear suffering around the world, I like to have a lot of appreciation for the soul and the choices it made. I find that very rewarding actually took a lot of courage to make those choices. Absolutely. And I’m grateful. And who am I to know why they made those choices. When we look at people who have had hundreds, maybe 1000s of lifetimes, it’s very, very complicated. And the older we become as a soul, the more we’ve done, you know, that we’ve all killed people or maimed or whatever, we’ve all done things. So who are we to judge? What is someone suffering? It could be someone’s freedom. We don’t know that, you know, but I do think that, you know, we can’t be caught up and we can make decisions from that belief system, we still have to stay in the compassionate part of it. So that we can allow humanity to to be human humane.
Rick Archer: Yeah, I mean, there are some who might say, Oh, well, it’s their karma to be starving or something. And the compassionate response would be okay, maybe it is, but it’s our karma to feed them. Absolutely helped them in some way.
Marie Manuchehri: Absolutely. Absolutely.
Rick Archer: We’re going to ask you is somehow related to this? Oh, well, maybe we’ll come back. Well, here’s a question. Since time isn’t really linear. Can you dwell in the fifth dimension, or wherever spirit guides dwell as a spirit guide, and yet simultaneously be living life on Earth? So in a sense, could you actually be your own spirit guide with one aspect of your being in a higher dimension and the other incarnate?
Marie Manuchehri: I think anything is absolutely possible. And I think we’re having multiple lifetimes at the same time. Some people believe that evolved souls like Buddha, or Christ also had multiple souls within them, you know, having a profound high vibrational experience in their incarnation here on Earth. So yeah, I don’t I don’t think I don’t think our minds can possibly allow us to know, all the potentiality that exists in the universes.
Rick Archer: Yeah. So I guess a, an addendum to that question would be, so are in a way, at some deep level, our spirit guides just aspect of our own being in a in the larger sense, and not some autonomous separate entities. But are they kind of like, part and parcel of larger being that we actually are?
Marie Manuchehri: Yes, I think that’s highly possible. I think that one of my spirit guides, because I can see three of them. Those are the ones I see all the time, I think she is my higher self, actually. And that’s how I feel. So I love what you said, it makes profound sense. And we’re all one we’re all connected. You know, even though we are individuals, and we have uniqueness to us, we’re also one when we look at the auric field, the sixth layer of the aura has a phrase on it, as each one of the fields has a phrase or a word working on it. And the phrase is we are all one, and then the seventh layer of the auric field, which the belief is that that’s where we get closest to God. It has the word individualization. So we’re both you know, we’re individuals, and we’re all one. So yeah, I think your perception of it is perfect.
Rick Archer: I remembered what I was going to ask, which is that I’ve heard it said that the Earth is actually a very opportune place to achieve higher consciousness to get enlightened, whereas in there might be an angelic realms, which were really nice to live in. But you don’t feel like going within there. You know, you’re just so enraptured with the beauty of the world you live in that there’s not that much incentive to kind of seek out the ultimate and you know, just discovered that
Marie Manuchehri: I agree 100%. That’s why we keep coming back here. And the time here is actually very quick, even though we’re living longer and longer, and it feels like a long time for some individuals, it’s a very short duration period of time. And because it’s so contractual, there’s so much objectivity that can be experienced that we do have the potentiality, to learn so much in a very short period of time. So yes, when you’re in a non physical reality, where you don’t have to eat, pay a mortgage, go to the bathroom, you know, I mean, when I think of what we have to do, as a human being, even what you and I had to do to get ready for this interview, wake up, go to the bathroom, find food, clothing, you know, just, we have so many things, we have to be responsible for that, you know, that makes this world even more of an interesting place to grow and evolve through, we have to make decisions constantly, all day long, we have so many opportunities to be present. So many. And I do think that that’s something that we’re looking forward to, towards when we’re here, it’s a lot more difficult when you’re in a different time, space reality, and you don’t have to go to the bathroom or eat food or wear clothing. It’s just feels so fun. Like, yeah, let’s just chill and hang out over here. And your awareness, the consciousness that we have another realities is much more expansive. So it’s easier to be compassionate, it’s easier to be understanding if you can see someone’s past life where they’re not being very nice to you. And another time space reality, versus when you’re here in traffic. And you just want to flip that person off, who just cut you off on the road, and you have to stop and breathe and, you know, say a lovely phrase to yourself and remind yourself that none of this really matters to it’s a great way to evolve.
Rick Archer: Yeah. There may be, I don’t know, I’m just speculating, there may be realms where there are highly enlightened beings who just dwell there and, and, you know, they’re every bit as enlightened if not far more so than anybody on earth, but, but my understanding of Enlightenment, at least for those of us here on Earth, is it’s the capacity to encompass the full range of, of creation within one’s awareness from gross to subtle, to transcendent, and to be able to sort of have one’s focus at any point in that range that this that situations call for, but but ultimately to be established in the foundation of it all, you know, pure, unbounded awareness. So that’s more of a statement than a question, but it sort of pertains to what we’ve been saying. And perhaps you have some comments on it sounds
Marie Manuchehri: amazing. It makes sense to me, you know, to, because it sounds almost funny to, at least to me, it always has to just be in this Nirvana place. You know, people ask me all the time they go, aren’t you looking forward to not reincarnating on Earth? And I’m like, No, oh, my gosh, one of my favorite places that I am aware of, anyway, I love the beauty here. And the and again, I love human beings. So I really enjoyed what you just said, It makes total sense to me to be able to, to be wherever and to be content and to be awake. And yeah, sounds amazing. That, I think is the term nirvana.
Rick Archer: One reason I asked this made that statement is that there was one part of your audio book I was this link to where you took people through this guided meditation to what you call the Enlightenment plane. And you were talking about sort of going off past the planets and out into the galaxies and so on and arriving at the Enlightenment plane, and had to kind of scratch my head at that one. Because I don’t understand Enlightenment as being something on some plane far off that you would travel to, it’s more of a an incorporation here. And now of the the deepest nature of our being into our conscious awareness. It’s not something you would sort of go to in any geographical or tribal sense. So can you reconcile that for me?
Marie Manuchehri: Sure. A lot of times when I encourage people to go off and out of their bodies, to be in a different vibration, so they can incorporate that higher self awareness into their humaneness before they come back into kind of a physical perception. So a lot of people have a hard time doing that in their body, they get stuck in, I don’t like my thighs, I, you know, I, you know, all this stuff that’s going on in their ever growing, ever thinking mind. And so by taking them out there and helping them realize that they are enlightened in this other field sort of perspective, and that everyone there loves them and adores them and cherishes them just exactly the way they are. And then they can bring that energy back into their body.
Rick Archer: So the whole thing about traveling out into the universe was sort of a metaphor just to get them out of their thighs, and into kind of a more transcendent state.
Marie Manuchehri: I want them to feel that energy and a lot of people have a hard time feeling that energy when they’re in their bodies, and now they just it’s challenging for them. And so I hope that when they go out to that place, when they come back, they’ll maintain that feeling that they had it’s almost like they give them selves permission once they’re in that field, but I agree with what you’re saying that it’s meant to be felt and experienced no matter where who we are.
Rick Archer: Yeah. Okay. Shifting gears a little bit is it said that that’s which is closest to truth lasts longest? And so I’m wondering if spirit guides who are kind of at a deeper level of functioning? Do they have longer lifespans than than a human being? And kind of an attachment to that question? Do they have a gender? Are they androgynous?
Marie Manuchehri: Again, I think that’s based on what the individual will accept. So because I love human beings, my spirit guides look very human to me. In fact, one of them my primary guide, looks like Sean Connery. He’s really handsome. Sean Connery,
Rick Archer: James Bond guy. Well, maybe a little older, dirty, rotten, scoundrels.
Marie Manuchehri: Yeah. And so let’s say someone loves the animal kingdom, you know, and perhaps all their spirit guides to them like like beautiful wolves, or someone who just loves energy. And once it’s a color, and frequency and vibration, so I think it’s up to the individual and what they are going to allow themselves to perceive, which is really how consciousness is about anyway, it’s like, I think sometimes people have a hard time grasping, new awarenesses, because they’re not allowing themselves to have the experience in a way that would be connected to who they are right now. They’re looking for something that’s outside of their current belief system or perception. And so if individuals would be comfortable with who they are, right now, then they could allow themselves to have any multi sensory experience.
Rick Archer: I’ve heard you mentioned that there are probably 1000s of levels of creation, you know, there’s just kind of vast range of dimensions, I think you use the word dimensions. And I find that interesting. In and we kind of have talked about it, but I just kind of want to have you talk a bit about the fact that in it, because some people think of the world is so material and concrete and almost dead. And whereas in fact, as I understand it, and intuitive there, it’s it’s teeming with life, not only, you know, on microscopic levels, if you look at what’s going on, you know, and the grain of dirt, but also on all these subtle levels, and there’s, it’s like an ocean, you can think of it there’s, you know, the surface level the waves, and maybe you see a few fish swimming around there. But then there’s, you know, deep, deep, deep levels of the ocean, and there’s fish at all those levels that are that live appropriately at each level. And so give us a paint us a picture of the universe in terms of its vertical dimension, and all the sort of strata. And maybe you don’t know specifically, but the idea that life thrives and flourishes on all those different levels. Yeah,
Marie Manuchehri: well, even something like indoor outdoor carpet is alive with frequency and vibration. And every time I walk into a hotel to teach a class, I’m enamored by the particles that are moving in the carpet, all the stories, it has to tell the people that have already stood there are still there, coffee, there are wet nine, it’s very much alive. And your mother who lives on the other side. The other side is only a few feet away from us. So our worlds literally move within each other all the time, constantly. There isn’t like walls, perhaps from other perceptions, like we mentioned before. So it’s kind of like the matrix, the movie, The Matrix. And when the hero in the movie starts to see all the beams of light moving, and how all the construct dissipates. And he can see through the walls in the building, and everything kind of slows down for him. And he can see, he can even anticipate what another person is thinking or feeling or whatever their reaction might be. And I think that we’re even capable, even though many people may not think this is true, that we’re capable of having those experiences, if we heighten our frequency, because it’s all about vibration. Everything about life is about vibration. And what we’re noticing on the earth from now is the vibration is speeding up very rapidly, which is funny. I heard because I host a radio show. And I’ve interviewed a lot of people in starting a couple years ago, a lot of authors had told me that they thought the frequency was increasing. No, I don’t think so. I think that frequency is just staying the same. I really don’t think it’s increasing. And I would say towards the middle of this year, I started to feel the vibration increasing for humanity. So that means that mainstream consciousness is starting to vibrate very differently. And so we’re noticing people who haven’t put a lot of energy into inner work or spirituality, or even maybe even to spending time in nature, which is an excellent form of spiritual awareness. All of a sudden, they’re beginning to change their awareness, their frequency is shifting, which is then changing the whole frequency vibration of the human realm. So in part to ask your your question, answer your question, we don’t even know all the capabilities, or, or all the ways that we can experience life, because we haven’t reached a vibrational mass consciousness on this planet yet, but things are beginning to shift from, if you will the bottom up. And again, that’s not a judgment, all frequencies and vibrations are viable and beautiful and extraordinary. Um, but we’re starting to notice that vibration is moving from the bottom is starting to increase the amount of electricity structure. So everything is made out of subatomic particles, right? Even your liver is made out of particles, or our thoughts are made out of particles, how a person lives, their energy, it’s all in molecular vibrations, so
Rick Archer: the particles don’t even particles, if you dig deeper, they’re kind of like just probability waves or something.
Marie Manuchehri: Absolutely. So the the mainstream human thought process are the majority of people who vibrate so I look at social consciousness is that most people vibrate in social consciousness, most people think and act out of a certain frequency. And then there are different people who vibrate at different levels of awarenesses that are not within the social construct. So what’s happening is the social construct is shifting right now, that means the molecular vibration is speeding up. And people are starting to experience their personal lives differently. And I think this is one of those rare times in human existence that this is happening. And a very big luck, kind of probably when we discovered that the earth was round. Before, you know, we thought it was flat and we had this huge conscious awakening that changed the dynamics of all of our lives. That’s what’s happening right now, many astrologers believe that this is the true age of Aquarian that that, that the 1960s or 50s, or whatnot was not really the Aquarian Age, and that we’re actually experiencing it right now.
Rick Archer: Yeah. If the kind of the de facto collective consciousness is waking up, or that the Ambien collective consciousness is starting to wake up, it would seem to me that there are going to be huge shifts, not only in people’s experience, but in the more manifest world, you know, yes, political systems, banking systems, yes. You know, economic, environmental things, all that stuff, much of which you can’t imagine existing in a more enlightened world. So it would almost seem like the rug is gonna get pulled out from under a lot of this stuff. And it’s gonna have to crumble.
Marie Manuchehri: Right? Well, I’m we’re already noticing that, you know, things are shifting in terms of things becoming more to our consciousness. Now, more deception, and more inequalities are starting to be brought to our awarenesses, which is, of course disheartening and disappointing. But if we can bring light to it, then we can actually begin to make changes. And, and also, as the human population becomes so disappointed in in unenchanted, with the things that other people have done, that sends a clear message about what we expect and what we really want in life. And that creates a lot of change throughout media and in governments and whatnot.
Rick Archer: It’s true. I mean, you can, Oprah has this new movie out called Selma, and it’s about the, you know, the civil rights era, Martin Luther King and black people getting the right to vote no, we’ve come a long way since then. But it seems that even now with the whole situation that happened this summer and Ferguson and similar situations that have been happening, there’s there’s this sort of insistence that things not continue the way they have been, and that we that there’s a new wave of change it seems seller accelerating,
Marie Manuchehri: I agree that that these what we may consider to be smaller incidents are also not okay. Right, you know, that this is not this is still based on old thinking and backward belief systems, and that this is not okay. It may not be it in a big way that it used to be, but these incidences are also not acceptable. This is not how we’re allowed to treat one another
Rick Archer: homework assignment is for listeners is to go and listen to Bob Dylan song the times they are changing the lyrics of which I can recite, but did what did so I don’t know if I quite asked you this. But, you know, we’ve we’ve talked, we’ve alluded to terrorists and so on in this talk. Those people probably have spirit guides, you will say and, you know, are those guides kind of being punished punished with a bomb assignment. You know, while the guides of saintly people have a coveted assignment, or did they don’t? I mean, I wouldn’t want to be a terrorist spiritualist spirit guide, I would, I would really be horrified by what the guy was doing and feel powerless to change it.
Marie Manuchehri: Well, remember, Spirit guides are involved more involved in the person that they’re guiding typically, at least that’s what I believe. And when you’re, yeah, the ones that can be gods, right. And if you’re involved, you love everyone and everything. You know, when we look at all of our teachers, for from our time, what their primary message has been, is to love. That’s their primary message. So a guide who’s guiding a terrorist is madly in love with that being and helping them to shift and change and to maybe make some sort of conscious advancement. Even if that doesn’t mean that they’re going to change for another 56789 10 lifetimes. Because it’s not a race, evolution is not a race, if it takes someone 400,000 lifetimes to reach that equilibrium that you discussed earlier. It’s okay, what else are we going to do?
Rick Archer: Okay, so if you were Imagine your spirit guide, and you were you’re assigned to, you know, be with some guy that’s strapping explosives on itself, he’s gonna go blow himself up on a bus, right? You know, what would, what would you be doing,
Marie Manuchehri: I would be sending love to him and all the people that he would be affecting, and that whatever’s in their highest good, whatever could help them. In that moment, I’m going to be calling in every Archangel on the planet in the cosmos, for sure, absolutely. Which I think is something that already happens. Because remember, the universe is a lot more conscious than the earth realm. So before events happen on our planet, beings are brought in immediately to, even before the event occurs to take care of individuals as they leave their bodies as they mourn the loss of the people they care for as their body is maintained. In and we’ve had a lot of people write about who have survived horrific events or had near death experiences. And most of them talk about feeling, embraced by love, and comforted during those horrific times in their lives.
Rick Archer: My wife just passed me a note saying, shouldn’t the guy be slapping him?
Marie Manuchehri: I don’t think, dude. Yeah, right. Well, and that’s what we think, from the human perspective. You know, I’m definitely one of those people that when someone’s not being very nice to their kid, you know, I want to go give them a lecture. And recently, this would be a sign of me not being very evolved. By the way, recently, I was in a restaurant. And there’s a family sitting next to my daughter and I, and they were, in my opinion, not being very kind to their two year old, and I was just my daughter could see the steam coming out of my ears, right? And she goes, Mom, take a deep breath. This is not your child, just relax, be with me right now. And let’s have our lunch. And if you want to send love to the family, that’s fine. But so so what happens is we I lowered my vibration in that moment, significantly, I felt, I actually took an impression and felt the child is suffering, which also lowered my frequency. I also thought very unkind thoughts towards all the adults that were at the table, I was disappointed in them. I wanted to lecture them. As I said, I was criticizing them in my mind and judging them, which is not a sign of evolution, or expanded consciousness. So I’m really grateful my daughter was there to get me out of that energy, so that I could enjoy my lunch and send love to the table. Because I don’t know what that little boy wants to learn. He chose that parental unit. You know, if if all of that is true, which I believe it is, he chose that parental unit to learn something.
Rick Archer: And daughter’s got your number?
Marie Manuchehri: Yeah, I’m very blessed.
Rick Archer: But on the other hand, there are situations in which we should intervene. There was the situation back in the 60s where this woman in the Bronx, I believe, named Kitty Genovese was stabbed over a period of 20 minutes in an apartment, complex lobby or whatever. And, you know, people in all the apartments could hear it going on, and nobody did anything because they didn’t want to get involved. So obviously, you know, sometimes we need to just dive in and stop something from happening.
Marie Manuchehri: Well, imagine if were present it like when I dropped in my second chakra, when I was in that restaurant, I didn’t hear, get up. But when I got neutral, and I got in my own emotions, I didn’t hear get up and go talk to those parents. I heard relax, take deep breaths. So whenever we’re president, we get out of our fear, actually, because I was in fear. When I was worried about this young kid I was in frustration and fear and anger, which is not me connected to my higher self. So if we become president than if we need to interference thing, if it’s in our highest good, it’s exactly what we need to do, then we will no, we will. Absolutely no. And then we also need to remember to although in this instance, I’m not saying that this is true for this woman who had such a horrific moment in her life. Many moments in her life is that the only way you leave your body is through death. Unless we’re evolved, like the people that scalding writes about and the life and teachings of the masters of the Far East, which I think is what we’re all meant to do, ultimately, is to walk out of our bodies, not to die of disease, or be hit by car or murdered by someone. But the only way we leave our bodies for most of us right now is through the body dying. And we don’t, this is a temporary time space reality. So I believe that every form of death is a form of suicide, I don’t think that I think we have free will. And we even choose when we want to go, I think that we go, Hey, that I walked that street. On Monday, there’s going to be someone speeding through the this is all unconscious, someone’s going to be speeding through that light, and I could be fatally hurt, and I really want to go, I’m done. I learned that thing about my mom, I’m all good to go, I really want to go home, kind of down with the earth plane. And so that’s an important part of our consciousness that we need to develop more so that we recognize that and souls are deciding when it’s time for them to leave this planet. And we need to respect that as well.
Rick Archer: Yeah, there’s a story, I think it was the beginning of the Mahabharata, where there’s Indian epic, where there are these six or seven celestial beings who one of them they had done something wrong. And so they had to be born as human beings. But one of them had done something more wrong than the others. He was the main culprit, they had to be born at sea, but they kind of negotiated this. We really don’t want to be human beings. We don’t want to live long lives, get us out of there as quick as possible. So on the human side of things, there was this king and queen and the Queen agreed to marry the king only if the King never intervened with anything she did, you know, he didn’t try to thwart. And so one by one, her children were born and she threw them right into a river, which of course would be horrific in this day and age. We don’t that sort of thing. But those were the souls that were had agreed, you know, had reached the agreement to live long lives. And then finally, the seventh one was born, and somehow her husband couldn’t stand it. And he intervened. And so the kid had the long life, but his wife left him because because he had violated the agreement.
Marie Manuchehri: Wow. Exactly. My point. Exactly.
Rick Archer: Yeah. So in other words, the point being here, there’s there’s a much larger script, and we only have, we only see a few lines of it, we don’t have the whole storyline,
Marie Manuchehri: we only have the third dimension to look at. And we live in a multi dimensional, multi universe, reality. And anything that we could already believe or perceive has already been manifested and created. And we live in this very, very vast, huge, expensive, expansive, and multi conscious, yeah. Yeah, all of that.
Rick Archer: Yeah. Good to remember. So is there anything else that I think I’ve exhausted all my written questions, and nothing else is coming to mind? Is there anything that you would like to say that I haven’t thought to ask about?
Marie Manuchehri: I think just to remind, you know, all of us that everyone is uniquely gifted, everyone is magnificent beyond measure, and that we most are afraid of is our magnificence. And so that if we can find ways, whatever creative ways that we possibly can to expand our energy, shift our frequency so that we can align to some neutral place of awareness, then we get more opportunities than we could possibly believe in to be who are our true selves? And I think that’s one of the reasons why we incarnate here on planet Earth
Rick Archer: Yeah, I think Christ said that the nutshell when he said seek and you shall find knock and the door shall be opened. You know, you if you have that intention, things start happening.
Marie Manuchehri: Wow, that’s great. Yeah.
Rick Archer: Well, in the spirit of Christmas, I have an important announcement. I mean, this is the end everyone to do this. So here we go. You’re ready oh. Think that was actually Bing Crosby’s voice? Yeah, well, you know, you said we got to free up our Kundalinis and just do wild and crazy things. So that was my little Woodstock moment.
Marie Manuchehri: See it’s so individual.
Rick Archer: Okay, so let me make my typical usual wrap up points that I always make. So first of all, thanks for you. This has really been a great conversation. I’ve loved meeting you and talking to you and everything. It’s been really fun, I think A lot of people enjoy listening to it.
Marie Manuchehri: Oh, thank you. It’s been a pleasure. Thank you so much for inviting me.
Rick Archer: Yeah. And
Marie Manuchehri: the questions, by the way, oh, thank you, well, fabulous,
Rick Archer: just kind of you got my creative juices flowing as I was listening to you. And all these things came up. And I ran composed half the questions, as I was saying. Okay, so this, for those of you who may be listening to this, for the first, you haven’t listened to any of my other interviews, this is a series there. Now, about 260 of them. If you go to batgap.com, bat gap, you’ll see them all. And there’s a past interviews menu, which if you pull that down there, you’ll see them categorized in a number of different ways. So you can explore, there’s a place to sign up to be notified by email each time a new interview is posted. And that is generally the only emails you’ll receive once we just sent out a Christmas email. But otherwise, just one a week. And let’s see, there’s a Donate button, which I really appreciate people clicking on if they feel inspired to do so. It’s the only means of support for this whole thing. There is an audio podcast of the show. So if you like to listen to things while your commute and so on, you can sign up for that and get it on your iPod. So that just about covers it. Thanks for listening or watching. And we’ll see you next week. Next week’s guest is Mary O’Malley. And the title of her book is something like what what is in the way is the way it’s the way you know that you know,
Marie Manuchehri: we live in the same city. I haven’t actually met her but we live in the same city. Yeah,
Rick Archer: yeah. So in other words, the things which appear to be impediments to us are actually opportunities for our growth. Beautiful. Yeah, so we’ll talk about that. All right. Thanks, Marie.
Marie Manuchehri: Thank you happy holidays.
Rick Archer: Oh, and I one thing I forgot to say, of course, is that you’ll have your own page BatGap And it will have links to your books and to your website and all that stuff. So people can find out more about you and what you do.
Marie Manuchehri: Thank you so much.
Rick Archer: You’re welcome.
Marie Manuchehri: Merry Christmas.
Rick Archer: Merry Christmas to you. Talk to you later.
Marie Manuchehri: Bye bye.