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754. Julia Mossbridge

The Science of Unconditional Love — Nonspeakers, Psi Abilities, and Healing

Summary: This conversation explores unconditional love as a foundational force, and how that perspective reshapes our understanding of healing, action, and spiritual growth. It also delves into precognition, loving AI, telepathy with non-speaking autistic people, and inner and outer disclosure.

Questions This Interview Explores

  • What does it mean to treat unconditional love as something real and fundamental, not just a feeling?
  • How can love motivate action without falling into spiritual bypassing or purification myths?
  • Can AI be designed to support human flourishing and even reflect a more loving intelligence?
  • What do precognition and non-speaking autism suggest about the limits of mainstream ideas of mind and communication?
  • How can disclosure be understood as both an outer revelation and an inner process of truth and healing?

Julia Mossbridge focuses ruthlessly on developing a deep understanding of love, time, technology, and how these human experiences relate to corresponding physical forces. Her most recent relevant projects include: Creating a Socratic GPT to guide intelligence analysts through the critical thinking process, leading a diverse team of technologists and designers to create a scalable, self-guided digital tool that increases overall wellbeing and is now being developed further within Native American communities, and leading an international group of AI developers and roboticists toward creating an unconditionally loving robot that reduced anger and cognitive load in humans. Some current affiliations include:

Mossbridge’s postdoctoral work in the Neuroscience of Human Cognition program at Northwestern University led to her interest in pursuing the mechanisms of precognition – the ability to perceive seemingly nonpredictable events. Mossbridge holds a PhD in Psychoacoustics in the Communication Sciences and Disorders Department at Northwestern University, an MA in Neuroscience (UC San Francisco), and was awarded a BA with a minor in Computer Science and Highest Honors in Neuroscience (Oberlin College).

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Transcript, summary, and key takeaways from this interview

Interview recorded May 3, 2026

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00 – Dream of machines that never learned to love
  • 00:23 – Buddha at the Gas Pump intro and Julia’s background
  • 03:59 – What is love? From connection to a “physics of love”
  • 09:05 – Universal love as fundamental force and “God is love”
  • 16:59 – Unconditional vs conditional love: definitions and lived experience
  • 22:55 – Motivation, service, and action from unconditional love
  • 29:35 – Trauma, shadow, and healing versus “purification” models
  • 37:40 – Can we really “grow” in love? Peak experiences and baseline shifts
  • 45:45 – Loving what is versus spiritual bypassing and safety
  • 52:55 – Teaching AI to love: the Loving AI and robot projects
  • 59:00 – Motherly love, misogyny, and shaping minds in AI culture
  • 01:05:30 – The Synapse women’s conference in AI, consciousness, and robotics
  • 01:12:55 – Introducing The Telepathy Tapes and Kai’s work
  • 01:18:03 – Non-speaking autism, telepathy, and the limits of speech-based models
  • 01:25:40 – Inside the minds of non-speaking autistic people
  • 01:33:10 – Spontaneous vs laboratory telepathy and “the Hill”
  • 01:45:01 – Have a Nice Disclosure: inner and outer disclosure
  • 01:52:30 – Collective shadow, government programs, and reconciliation in love

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