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Lars Muhl Interview

Rick Archer: Welcome to Buddha at the Gas Pump. My name is Rick Archer. Buddha at the Gas Pump is an ongoing series of interviews with spiritually Awakening people. I’ve done over 550 of them now and if this is new to you, and you’d like to check out previous ones, please go to bat gap comm bat gap and look under the past interviews menus. This program is made possible through the support of appreciative listeners and viewers. So if you appreciate it, and we’d like to help support it, there is a PayPal button on every page of the website. My guest today is Lars Mool. Welcome, Lars.

Lars Muhl: Thank you very much.

Rick Archer: You’re welcome. Lars is over in Denmark. And I’ll just give you a few little bullet points about him. And then we’ll elaborate on these points as we get into our conversation. So you know, since a very young age, Lars has been quite psychic and sensitive. In his teen years, he began studying the spiritual traditions of the world. He became a professional singer songwriter, and did that for 50 years. Who was quite, I think, well known in in Europe. And in Israel also they his band toured there as a musician. Then in 1995, for three years, he was bedridden with an unexplainable illness, we’ll talk about that. At the end of those three years, he was healed in the space of about five minutes by a seer named collate them unsecure. Hopefully I pronounced that correctly. And Lars became his apprentice for seven years. Lars is the best selling author of the trilogy, the old manuscript, which is translated into many languages. And his latest book is The God formula, which I read just this past week. So here we go, loves. And thank you all for tuning in to watch this interview in this conversation. So I heard you tell the story several times of your sister having died when she was six, and you were 10? Was that sort of the beginning of your psychic experiences and sensitivity? Or were you that way, even at a younger age?

Lars Muhl: Even before I had some experiences, but it was when my sister died, that it really broke through, you know, and yeah, so he heard death meant a whole new direction of my life, so to speak.

Rick Archer: What’s your understanding now, of why a trauma like that could have caused you to become significantly more sensitive and psychic? How could it awaken those kinds of abilities in a person?

Lars Muhl: You see, many years later, when I met this year, Canada multicarrier, my teacher, he explained to me that when we this is something that happens to everybody. But more profoundly maybe for for kids who are exposed to traumas like this, or if they lose their parents or in an accident or whatever, but all people are experiencing this. At the moment, when we become what we call it, when we come into puberty, then the the Kundalini power is starting to move, you know, it’s like something is released. It’s not a raising of the Kundalini. But it’s some movements that most for most people are only lasting maybe in one day, or within a few days, and then it’s gone. But everybody has within those days, a kind of connection to the other side, so to speak. But but only very few are attentive towards it. But on the other hand, what happened to me was that I kept kind of hanging in there, you know, I there was no way that I could get out of it, you know, and it just for everyday it just became more and more profound in a way that was really traumatic to me. And it meant that I was able to, to feel other people’s pains and the grown ups I could feel They, they thought one thing said another and did a complete different thing. You know, and, and that was really the scary part for me that I couldn’t, I felt that I could not trust the adults, you know, at that time, but devil, you know, of course, they were only just doing what every adult is doing what we all do. But but when you’re a kid, you know, even if you don’t have this kind of the thing that I went through you, you are much more sensitive towards things, you know, yeah. Couple of

Rick Archer: interesting points in there. So from what I gather from what you’re saying, it’s like a trauma, sudden shock, like with your sister’s dying kind of crack you open, and you couldn’t close down again, you were just open and you had, you know, you just were sensitive. And that’s all there was to it. And another thing I gathered is that you said that everybody undergoes some degree of this, when they attain puberty, there’s some degree of Kundalini awakening. And of course, puberty is associated with the awakening of stronger sexual desires. And Kundalini is often associated with the sexual desires, you know, this Kundalini energy. So that all seems to tie in there. But then you said that, for most people, any sort of spiritual opening associated with that is very brief. Is that a good summary of what you just said?

Lars Muhl: Yeah, you could say that, you know, the thing is that, the main thing is that when you are 10 years old, you haven’t, you don’t have a clue of what is going on. And there’s nobody around you that can really explain it to you. Yeah. So that that was the worst part that I thought that was something terribly wrong with me.

Rick Archer: I have a friend whose brother died, died of a drug overdose, and she had been very close to her brother. And it had a similar effect on her, it just sort of, obviously, it was very traumatic, but it kind of kicked her into a higher state of consciousness, which she didn’t lose. But

Lars Muhl: you know, if it happens when we are grown up, and maybe we have prepared ourselves for this, that’s a whole nother story. Of course,

Rick Archer: yeah. Okay, so then just give us a couple of examples, you mentioned that you were able to perceive the hypocrisy of the adults around you, they’re saying one thing, but meeting another, and so on, are there any other examples of such kind of psychic incidents or different perceptions that you had that were kind of unusual for a kid of that age,

Lars Muhl: even before my sister died, I remember, we were sitting in in and just playing one Sunday morning, very early, the sun came in, and suddenly, just like this, I kind of saw the, if you, if you think about a net of light, like small, light crystals in the air, that was interwoven with, with with, like, a net of light. And I could look through it, you know, look through the room, look through my sister look through the furniture. And it was just for a brief moment. And, you know, I was taken aback and didn’t think more about it. But when my sister died, that came back in a much more profound way, you know, so I was not able to really to, to shake it off, you know, I had to choose, kind of sit through it. Until it it stopped, you know,

Rick Archer: so it was like X ray vision, sort of,

Lars Muhl: yeah, I don’t know how to explain it, you know, there’s a lot of terms that we use for exploring, for explanation of the things that I actually think it has been, more or less lost their real meaning, you know, like, a lot of people come to me and said, they think they have had a Kundalini rising, and they only had a something so we’re back

Rick Archer: to glorifying,

Lars Muhl: but, you know, like, like, also, terms like channeling and stuff like that. What is challenging, you know, you know, there’s all these terms that I, I have come to, to question also in my own, in my own case, you know, that I always screwed scrutinize these things, because I don’t want to be a victim of my own kind of, you know, when it runs wild or whatever. Yeah,

Rick Archer: you don’t want to just sort of be imagining stuff. That’s not true.

Lars Muhl: You’re right. It’s good. I mean, it’s it’s, that’s another thing that I think we should talk about because to be able to fantasize is something we all can do. but actually visualize thing and the, our gift of visualizing is really important when you become more conscious about what kind of power that is. Yeah, and how you can use it, you know?

Rick Archer: Yeah, let’s not forget to talk about that I’ll even make a note here we’ll get into it. Visualize and, and also having the right orientation to visualize and or desire the right things, you know, when one can sort of stick oneself off in wrong directions by misusing an ability like that, which begins to grow.

Lars Muhl: Exactly. But you know, as I said before, as when you’re a kid, you have no chance to categorize it or in any way, grasp what this is all about. So I just had to sit through it until it sort of more or less was vanishing, you know,

Rick Archer: they don’t teach you that stuff in school. So school did you have a hard time fitting in in school?

Lars Muhl: Yeah, after that came in, you know, but the sensitivity are, it was impossible for me to attend school, you know, so, I really have no schooling. But I started to, to, to, to study, as a 14 years old when one day by post I received a small book by a Sufi master called Hazrat Inayat Khan, it was sent by an anonymous post, and to this day, I don’t know who sent it to me. But at that time, I was so really in a bad spot, you know, I was really depressed. And yeah, I could not cope with reality. So I this book randomly, and that I believe, actually saved my life. Because the first thing I wrote there was, already there was, if you will approach us, we will bow down and lift you up. To me at that time, it was like the angel was talking to me. And from that moment on, I knew that I was not alone. And there weren’t that many spiritual books around in Denmark or in Danish. And I could not speak English, but I sent for a book of Hassan nine, in English. And that was the book that from which I learned to speak English. From front to cover, cover to cover. And when I finished, I started all over again, and I went through it until I could understand more and more.

Rick Archer: That’s great. And you’ve also learned Aramaic, we’ll be talking about that today. That’s impressive. Yeah, this point about, you know, Jesus said, of course, seek and you shall find it’s, I’ve seen that so many times, where when someone has a sincere intention, for God, or for higher truth, or whatever, stuff starts happening, you know, it’s like, it’s as if the, whatever we want to call it, the universe, the Guardian, angels, whatever they are, they respond quite, quite immediately, sometimes as soon as the intention is sincere.

Lars Muhl: Exactly. Knock, and it’ll be open, you know? Yeah. And so that is exactly how it’s working. You know, actually, when you have the Aramaic key to the New Testament of the words of Joshua or Jesus, I mean, it’s like a treasure chest, you know, that is opening up, there’s so much profound wisdom there that, or else a lot of people have never heard about. So very deep stuff. Very deep stuff.

Rick Archer: Yeah, I’m sure we will be discussing that today in some detail. So what point did what kind of musician were you singer guitar.

Lars Muhl: I was singer, keyboardist keyboard, piano player.

Rick Archer: And he started learning that as a child, even though I was

Lars Muhl: kind of musical from the start, I just had no musical ambitions that were the reason I came into a band was that I knew that I could not cope with what you call real life. So somebody over where you live, invented the youth movement in the 60s, and I was so lucky to be part of it, or else I had to invent it, and that would be too much for me, but I was part of that, you know, and became member of a band. And those guys in that band was all exactly as I they they was looking for a place to be, you know, in the world. So we were became like brothers, who had this thing together that be It was also against the world.

Rick Archer: That’s good. So all the guys in the band were had a spiritual orientation. Yes, yes. Very good. Yeah, I had a band like that, too. It was my last band. I had been in several. But I had learned to meditate. And I got all the other guys meditating. And it was nobody was taking drugs. It was just a really good group of people. And we we did pretty well there. I ended up leaving it to become a meditation teacher. But it was a good thing to do as a teenager, but you went on for like many, many years and became quite successful.

Lars Muhl: What was the name of your? Oh, you

Rick Archer: wouldn’t have heard of it. It was called good Hill. And it was in Connecticut. And we played around the East coast a little bit.

Lars Muhl: Okay. Yeah. What I’d be talking to 60s? Oh,

Rick Archer: yeah. Late 60s. Up to 1970. I was a drummer. Okay. I’ll send you a photo later. Oh, that’d be fun. Yeah. Okay, so. So then, as I understand it around the age of 1415, you started, you got that book, you said when you were 14. And then you started gobbling up all the books you could find you’re reading the Bhagavad Gita and all kinds of things. Anything you could get your hands on.

Lars Muhl: Yeah. I started to study, you know, and that had been my veal occupation. And the music has been enough second, you know, yeah. That show it. Yeah. And very early on, I picked up on on the scenes, you know, that scene, the Dead Sea Scrolls, and all this. And Jesse was Joshua’s connection to the scenes. I actually I the first book on this it was from was written in 1800 98, or something. It was called Jesus, Jesus, the scene, Buddhism in Christian, dumb. That was, you know, really, really mind blowing. And so many years before they found the Dead Sea Scrolls.

Rick Archer: Yeah, that was like, 1945 or so. And they found a Muslim magic. 47.

Lars Muhl: Seven. So it was the beginning to me for me to, to really investigate the scenes I was the minute the first thing I read about them, it struck home, completely clean. And I was on, you know, from that moment on?


Was Jesus sent a scene? Of course, yes. There’s no doubt, no doubt.

Rick Archer: And the scenes were to explain what the scenes were.

Lars Muhl: The scenes was, you know, at the time about Jesus, there were three kinds of sects. There was the Pharisees and the Sadducees. And the scenes. And the scenes were taking they were didn’t want to be part of the priesthood of Jerusalem, because they thought it was, what do you call it? Full of errors, and yet it was fucked up, so to speak. They they, they spoke the word but they didn’t walk the talk. So they went into the deserts. And actually they start they were we know that they were on on in their 300 years before Yeshua was born. And only the real purpose of the scenes were to prepare the way for their Messiah, their teacher of righteousness, and new avatar, so to speak. And you should remember when Jeshua was born, nobody had heard about Christianity. Just guess we have never heard about it. Right. You know, it was invented many years later after he wasn’t here around anymore. So to me, the question was, what tradition did he come from? Because that, to me, that was obvious that he had he needed to have some backbone. He just didn’t came down and just started all this. He, he was away for many years where the Bible don’t have New Testament don’t mention where he was. And I’ll tell you why it doesn’t mention it. Because the only sect that is not mentioned in the New Testament is actually the scenes because they wrote the New Testament. And they they wanted to keep their secrets. You know, when Yeshua came, they had all those prophecies about him if you go to Cya in the Old Testament, you can read all about there’s almost a totally complete description of of Jesus and his destiny. And they had all kinds of science exactly as the Tibetan Buddhist dilemmas when they find they have to find a new Dalai Lama. They have the signs to go off and they look in the stars for the sign And exactly the three wise men from the Sikh community at Kumon it just 12 kilometers east of Bethlehem. So they came from the east and went to Bethlehem, where the saw the science. And they, they tested the new messiah, the teacher of righteousness and found that here he was. So when, after that, they took him into Jerusalem. And you can read in the New Testament, there was two scenes, Simon and Hannah, who were only waiting for the wise men to come and deliver the child in order for them to say, Yes, this is it. And that you can read in the New Testament was exactly what they did. So after that, he was take they were they went to Egypt, where he did the preparations, they went to Carmel afterwards, in Israel, in close to our days Haifa, to the school of Prophets, they have where they, he seems also have a settlement. And then to come on, and where he was taking also to Persia for some time and to eat again, until he came to John the Baptist and took his last rites, or his last initiation. And we can read after that he went to 40 days in the desert, and then he started his mission. But you see, what the scenes did not expect the did not know that he would go out in public, and start to share all the secrets with ordinary people. So they were also not only surprised, but taken aback and shocked over this. And some of them were actually also complaining about in almost fighting him, because they didn’t want that. So this is something we should have had in mind when we read the new system in that a lot of the things in there are written more or less in Aramaic codes, you know, because if you don’t know the Aramaic language, you have no real chance to understand what that’s all about. But he took it out. And that was his mission. And he told them, Listen, let those who have ears hear and do to have I see, you know, he

Rick Archer: kept on said that many times. Yeah,

Lars Muhl: yeah. Because there’s more to what I say than that. I mean, you have to really open up to what I say, you have to understand it. And if you understand it, and you follow my example, you can do even greater wonders than I, you know, and that’s the challenge that still stands for each one of us to follow that example and understand, what do you see talking about? No, yeah. It completely before we can follow through, you know?

Rick Archer: Sure. So the point you just made is, you know, some people make this big fuss about Jesus, that He was something that nobody else could ever aspire to, and nobody else has ever been like, or will be like, or anything else. But he was saying, you know, we all have this potential.

Lars Muhl: This is totally up in opposition to what you can read in the New Testament, but Jesus actually says there, he also says, remember, it was written that you’re all you’re all gods, meaning that you’re all children of God. I’m not the only one. And if you take the Aramaic word for Baja, that knee or for for the only one, the only son of God, you know, there’s no such thing. Baka means the first one. The first saw the chosen one, but not the only one. If he was the only one How could he say that we were also children of a god? How could he say follow my example and you do even greater one lesson I he was learning us into Come on, come on, look what I’m doing, listen to what I say. And go out and do even better. I mean, that was the whole purpose of it. So it was so many mistakes, you know, that he was the first soul coming in as Adam and he has a whole line of incarnations you know your own prophet the sleeping Prophet it Casey of course you know and hope all your your the people of America know him because he long before the the debts is called for found. He he prophesied about them being found. He delivered so much stuff about the scenes and dishware and their connection and how, how everything was yeah, how it was. So go and read some of his his prophecies and his stuff about this. It’s amazing. And these things I have have also been very, very sufficient for me you know, and very in important in my studies to have it KKC there also,

Rick Archer: I get the sense that the reason Christians, some Christians get so upset by this idea that you know, you can also realize God and you have God within you and all this stuff is they don’t sort of, I must say somewhere in the Bible that God is omnipresent. Right? And if it says that, then obviously God is permeates us as much as God is within us as much as he’s anywhere. And so we could we could discover him within us if he’s there. And but somehow, they take that as meaning that, I don’t know they just don’t seem to, to grok the idea that God is to be found right within you they think he’s somewhere else, or seeing things you know, from the clouds or something. I would

Lars Muhl: share share with you something very important in this type. Of course it is. It says in Luke, the gospel of Luke, remember, the kingdom of heaven is within you. Yes. So, if you know what kingdom of heaven is in in Aramaic, it is magical Tah dah Shem I microtargeting, Tajima, Melco, Tom, meaning kingdom, Tisha Maya, heavenly. But you see, within those two words, you have some root words, in Aramaic, a root word is a possibility awaiting its awakening or it’s, it’s activating by you coming around and picking up and saying it and actually giving it a sound. And that moment, it becomes a real reality, you connect to it. So the root word would in Mallacoota, is milk. And from milk, you have the word Maliki, which means Angel, Mighty One, messenger, King, and in death Shemaiah. And this is something that all those who are listening to this and watching this, I really want your attention now, because Shem, if you remember, we were we were asked, we were told in the beginning of the Old Testament, that we were born in the image of God, what does that mean? How does God look like? What is it that image, that image is actually a power. And the beauty of this is that when Yeshua is telling us that the kingdom of heaven is within us, that the medical chart is your Maya is within us. That’s him, that is within the Shem idea, is actually that image of God in which we are born. You know, that’s the life that’s the power that can never die, I this Shem fire, I amines who can never who are there forever, you can it can never perish, you know, so you have this eternal principle of God’s image within you. And the beauty of the language of ama is all within the word for kingdom of heaven, that Yeshua is actually saying that is within us, you see that it’s all connected in that way. And it’s so profound and beautiful, that you can start working with the CM, this Yemaya in you later on, if there’s time, I can show you a very, very simple, simple practice that has been so profound in in my life that it can change in you can do it anywhere in the supermarket, at the breakfast table, in the meditation, wherever you go, just sit down, connect to your breath, and start doing it. And I’ll show you later, because I think it’s some of the most important, cheating, I had to share with people. And I want I want the viewers of this thing that they go when they leave from here to take some very, very precious thing with them as a gift.

Rick Archer: Great, let’s definitely let’s definitely take time for that. Would would you say would you agree? That sort of God or the kingdom of heaven is really within everything is within rocks and frogs and cows and everything, but the human being has a sort of a unique capacity to actually experience it.

Lars Muhl: Indeed, you I mean, the breath of God, or that principle we call God is actually within everything. Yes. But man is born in the image of God meaning that we have the ability to connect if we allow it, that’s another thing, we need to, to give, because we were also given free will, meaning that you can choose to go down that path or down that path, you can take the high road or the low road, you know. So, and in sometimes we have to take the low road, in order to experience something that will elevate us even beyond the high road, you know, so there’s no judgement in this, whatever you how you look at it, it’s just a matter of how do you feel, if you connect to your intuition, your higher self, you know exactly what to do. Problem is, most people are not there, you know, we are all enlightened already, we just have to wake up and take responsibility for it, and start acting accordingly.

Rick Archer: Yeah, I have a kind of an ongoing conversation with a good friend who says something along the lines, like, you know, who’s to say that cats and dogs and mice and chickens and all these other simple innocent animals are not enlightened who’s to say that only human beings can? And I say, well, let’s we got to be clear on what we mean by enlightened because if you really mean, you know, realizing the the full divinity, you know, or the unboundedness of pure awareness, if we want to use that term, it takes a certain degree of complexity of nervous system, to have that kind of realization. And that’s why, you know, we evolve up to higher and higher and higher, or more complex forms of embodiment of our nervous system so that ultimately we can, you know, recognize divinity within ourselves when it doesn’t seem to be something that the lower animals possess. Do you agree with that or not?

Lars Muhl: No, yeah. I mean, this, to me, it’s obvious that being born in the image of God, and what what that means, and it means that we are here to make a difference, and be co creators.

Rick Archer: And you have when we have free will, like you just said, exactly.

Lars Muhl: And, but we can talk more about it later, maybe, okay,

Rick Archer: well, we’ll go on all day, we have so many things to talk about. So all the stuff that you were saying about that Jesus, and the Essenes and and the Sadducees, the Pharisees and all that. Did you mainly get that knowledge from your study of the Old Testament and your ability to understand Aramaic? And is all that in the actual Old Testament that you can open up in any Bible? Or is it more sort of these other gospels of Thomas and Phillip and other gospels that didn’t really make it into the canonical text?

Lars Muhl: I mean, it’s a mixture of all the things you know, and it’s also a lot of things happened when I started to work with this year and being his apprentice, because he, he never read any, or wrote or read anything. But he practiced a lot. And he had this ability to kind of connect to the book of life, so to speak, and read different things in there. And the book of life being a higher frequency of, of consciousness is something that we all are connected to,

Rick Archer: that sort of like the Akashic records or something. Yeah, yes, exactly. Right.

Lars Muhl: In this tradition, it is called the Book of Life. And all people are connected to it. But you need to understand that and allow yourself to be connected to it and start working with it, you know, and refine yourself, sharpen yourself, in order to so I got a lot of information from that. Or, obviously, also, the beauty of it in my case was that I had read so many things, you know, and have studied so many years, that I every time I had something coming in, I could check it out with the scriptures and all the other things I have been reading, you know, we’re studying. So is this possible? Could this really be possible? Yes. And actually, you should remember that the scenes for most of them and Jesus were Jews. So you can actually find a lot of things in the old Jewish Scriptures about that tradition, you know, because that was also his tradition.

Rick Archer: One other point I wanted to ask you before we lose the thread is, you know, a lot of people think that Jesus went to India and studied there and there are actually people in in India who claimed to have records of his having been there. What is your take on that?

Lars Muhl: He was taking. You had a teacher, a woman teacher, who brought him there to Persia, and possibly also the northern part of India. And he was afterwards taken to to Egypt, where he had is the most important, but the scenes had a school down there in the, in the outside of Alexandria, and but he was mostly he was mostly into the Jewish, the Jewish tradition, and the Jewish Mystery Schools.

Rick Archer: Okay. Another sort of general question. And I want to get back into your personal story in a little while, we’ll talk about, you know, your having gotten sick for three years and having met the CEO and all that. But another general question is, some people would wonder, like, how is it that what these people did 2000 years ago, is so relevant to us now? And aren’t we kind of guessing a lot as to who they actually were and what they actually did? Because things tend to get lost and distorted over long periods of time?

Lars Muhl: No, there has always been people who could connect to two different kind of areas. And, and in I have, I have, also something I had, the CEO told me that I have a background there, I was actually a scribe in at Kumaun, at the university there. And I, you know, the first time I came there it was I visited that place was like coming home. When I was there in 69. With my band we were taking out there on a day off. And we were just a group coming in. And the guide was telling me here was this and here was that. And suddenly, I heard myself, I have to interrupt you, because it was the other way around. You know,

Rick Archer: it was over there.

Lars Muhl: To my lock, there was an huge German professor standing behind me. And he said, Yeah, I think the young man, is that right.

Rick Archer: That’s great. So you just kind of recollection of it.

Lars Muhl: Yeah. And he was also an arco law. A lot of archaeologists. Yeah. Yeah. And he was into this stuff. So yeah. So that was strange to me, you know, because I did not know that. I knew. Yeah.

Rick Archer: That’s great. All right. Let’s get back to your story a little bit. So you kept playing in the band. And as I heard, you tell the story. You weren’t really practicing anything you were but you were reading continuously. Sometimes you would even be backstage reading the Bhagavad Gita or something. And they’d have to pound on the door and say, time to come out. We got to play. Yeah, but you were pretty obsessed with that. All this spiritual literature. But then, you didn’t start practicing till you met the seer. And for three years before you met the seer, you were sick. So it wasn’t until 95 When you would have been what? 35 years old? No, 45 years old. Yeah, that you got sick. And you were bedridden for three years with an unexplainable illness. Nobody could properly diagnose it. When you say you’re bedridden, do you mean like, you couldn’t even get up to go to the bathroom? You were like, totally flat on your back, or basically, you just had to stay in bed, the whole mostly,

Lars Muhl: you know, like, two days in bed, three days up, became more and more, you know, bonchon at last, I was just almost just lying there all the time.

Rick Archer: Wow. And were you in pain? Were you like, Delirious or what? No,

Lars Muhl: I just had, it was like, if if what you call something

Rick Archer: so severe?

Lars Muhl: Yeah, I even saw

Rick Archer: iron

Lars Muhl: coming out of my heart, you know, I was like, crucified. Wow. And, of course, I was depressed. I was I could not even think sometimes, you know, the last things. The last period was, like, you know, everyday I was down in in a mud hole. And I could see there was light up there. So I would my last, you know, kind of efforts, I tried to to have it, get a grip up there. And every time I was just about to have a grip, I just slide it down again. And I had to wait another day or two, before I had the power to start doing that. And then one day, a voice came in and said last, if you are lying here, and you feel so much pain, why not? When you are here anyway, take upon you the pain of all sick people in the world. And immediately when that was said, I didn’t even hesitate. I knew that if if I didn’t comply to this. I would lose it everything. So I said yes. And the moment I said yes, it was like I was taken out of my body and just standing beside the bed. And the pain disappeared. Four days later, I was connected to this year. It was like, it was, I don’t know. It was really a kind of test or something.

Rick Archer: Yeah. You know, just Shanti is you ever hear? Have you heard of audio? Shanti? No, he’s an American spiritual teacher, but he wanted to be a professional bicycle racer. And, you know, he was really into it and training hard and all that. And he, and he ended up flat on his back for six months, he couldn’t, he couldn’t get out of bed, basically. And he didn’t know why nobody knew what was wrong with him. And then he finally got out of bed. And he gradually began building up his bicycle racing thing again, and then boom, flat on his back for six months ago. And he finally you know, it transitioned into this whole spiritual awakening. And he realized that he was like, nature was telling him, you’re not going to be a bicycle racer. You know, we’re just going to put you in bed here. And you’re going to just cook until you get the message.

Lars Muhl: That that, yeah, I can understand that. So well. Yeah.

Rick Archer: So you, you met the seer. And you you know, because of some friend of yours was asking why you hadn’t shown up for some meetings. And she said, oh, you should meet this guy. And he’ll he’ll, he’ll you then. So you ended up talking on the phone for five minutes with him and take the story from there.

Lars Muhl: Yeah. And I just asked him, Can you I need to come and see you. He was supposed to be in Copenhagen? And he said, No, I haven’t got time for you for next half year. But I said you have to because oil if I die? And you at that moment, he did No, no anything and said, What’s wrong with you? I said, I just have been in bed for three years. And so he said, Hang on. And then there was complete silence, you know. And it was just like, and I was just about to hang out on because I thought he had connected in disconnect. Then he came back, he said, Listen, you come to me at this and that address at that date and time in half a year. And until then, everything should be alright. Goodbye. And I was completely stunned, you know, of course. Okay. So I think it was 20 minutes later, I felt faint. Knocking in my, in my neck, like somebody was something I experienced later on on many occasions. And I was so tired, I went to bed and slept for an hour or so, woke up and a world that had been in black and white was suddenly in Technicolor. You know, I could hear the birds on the other side of the island sing, you know, it was like I was given my


life back.

Rick Archer: I’m sorry to tell you.

Lars Muhl: And from that moment on, in that half year, there were so many things happening to me, you know, I stopped smoking, which I never thought was possible for me. And a whole lot of things. You know. It was amazing. Yeah.

Rick Archer: That’s great. You mentioned that it was almost like an iron Fire Rod going through your heart or something. Yeah. Do you think that there was that you probably heard of Kundalini? Do you think there was some kind of huge kundalini awakening taking place in your burning through your chakra? Is there any such thing?

Lars Muhl: No, no, no, I’m positive. No, no, no, this had something to do with me not taking the choice that I knew I had to take too long to leave showpiece. And really start having trust in what I was really meant to do in this life, or my studies, you know, or my this and that. And it was now time for me to go and practice all the things to walk the talk and start preparing for the work that I was here to do. You know, it was all I was already. Right from the start. This was, you know, I started to write when I was 10 years old. You know, I wrote everything down that was happening, everything I saw it all my sensitivities, and everything is written in in a thing that I did when I was 10 years old. I started writing there. So have always been described. When I met the CEO, he’s he called me the scribe. Oh, that’s the scribe. No, it’s yeah, it was. So I could just could not take that choice. And he helped me to make it took me up.

Rick Archer: I remember from the movie, Brother Sun Sister Moon by Franco. Zeffirelli, there was a similar scene where St. Francis had come back from the Crusades, obviously doing something he wasn’t meant to be doing. And he ended up getting really, really sick. And he was in bed for I don’t know how long. And finally he woke up out of it. And boom, he was like St. Francis, he woke up to this Technicolor world, like he said, the birds are beautiful, and he just kind of totally transformed his personality.

Lars Muhl: Yeah, it was, you know, I was, as Joshua saying, You need to be reborn, even in this life, before you can enter the kingdom of heaven. You know. And I felt at that moment, you know, when I started to work with Keller, that I was more and more connected to everything that had read about the Kingdom of Heaven, have suddenly understood, I did understand what the Mallacoota issue Maya was all about.

Rick Archer: Yeah. So Cal, there was your teacher, and he said, come on down here in six months or something, so you recuperated and I imagine you got your muscle muscles back working again and stuff for for six months. And then you left Denmark and went down to southern France, as I recall, to, to work with him.

Lars Muhl: I’ve worked with him in southern France at Monster Gu, the holy place of the cathouse. Ben, but he was old, he was living in the in southern Spain, in Andalusia. So we also later on I went there and work with him there. And that was sometimes two months in a row, you know, every day, just listening to him when while he was working with his clients who, who phoned him every morning from all over the world. And just sitting next to him and picking up what was going on. And afterwards we were, we were trading all kinds of stuff, you know, like, like healing and about to call it. When you you work with Watson name in English remote, something, you have remote heating, but also connecting to each other’s orebodies keys, it just slipped my mind,

Rick Archer: it’ll come down. Actually, I’ll read a little sentence, a little paragraph here from your book, and maybe that’ll jog your memory. But you said, at one point, he ordered you to stand half a meter in front of him, centering your eyes into his quoting you say for one hour, I was traveling through foreign universes and into strange landscapes of the soul, where many different shapes and forms sensations and insights open themselves to me, they call that gazing. But obviously, with someone like him, it was a very profound experience.

Lars Muhl: It’s gazing in the in the, in the mirror, as we call it, and what is happening when you

Rick Archer: put in your case, you’re gazing at him in his eyes, and vice versa. Yeah.

Lars Muhl: And, you know, the eyes being the mirror of the soul. Yeah. And what is happening, when you are looking into a mirror, you see yourself more or less, but you have to go through a whole process of all kinds of personal stuff that you because this is very provocative, you know, it’s provoking, you know, to and to look into his eyes is, you know, like, you know, that was just too much, you know, but this was something we did again and again, over and over. And until, you know, I realized that while two people are connecting in that way, you know, that is so strong, and it’s so powerful. And, yeah, I learned so much.

Rick Archer: Yeah, so it was a very intimate scene. I heard you say that there was just you and two women who are his principal, disciples if you want to use that word, and that he worked very closely with him. And I also heard you say that he was he was quite a character. I guess he used to be a military man. And he was very strict. And you know, he wouldn’t, he would like, not cut you very much slack as the saying goes. And then also he was he, he broke some of your preconceptions about what a holy man might be like, he smoked, he drank wine, things like that.

Lars Muhl: Yeah. Yeah, that, you know, when I first had breakfast with him, I being a vegetarian for many years. And the first thing he did, he opened the fridge and took out some sausages, a tin of sausages and some ham salad, you know, and stuff like that. And he looked at my plate. Don’t you have something to eat? Actually go into work here. Yeah. And, yeah, I mean, that was really I thought, you know, he was a holy man, how can he I mean, and I had to readjust all my, you know, preconceptions. Since about what everything was, you know, and I actually, after some of the people who have watched the documentary where he’s smoking and drinking, there’s that how can he be a holy man when he’s smoking? I said, mind you, he have never, ever said anything about being a holy man. But despite that, he have helped 1000s of people all over the world, given their life back. So, you know, maybe we people would were playing around with spirituality and thinking this and that, and how things could be, you know, forget about it. Just wipe that, that thing, clean, you know, that slate clean, and just come back to reality, and start right where you are. What are you doing when you’re on your own, and nobody’s watching you? You know, I had, I saw a teacher who was teaching vegetarian, his men, and it was so terrible to eat meat. And in the break, I found him in down the street, having a sausage. Oh, brother, you know, and he was really embarrassed when I came in. And, you know, things like that, you know, it’s ridiculous. Yeah, by pretense software thing, you know, but go down and take that source. It doesn’t matter, you know?

Rick Archer: Yeah. I know that what the word hypocrite was one of the ones that Jesus uses a lot in the Bible. You know, he’s accusing these people being hypocrites. Good to be true to yourself.

Lars Muhl: Yeah, of course. And it doesn’t matter. I mean, if you smoke, enjoy doing it, or else stop doing it, you know? Yes. For everything, you know. And I think everything is a test, you know, I have been a smoker myself, and I had so much help, you know, when I was quitting it, I never thought I could quit it. I tried so many times, you know, and I fail every time. But suddenly, the time was right. And the difference for me in that moment was, I recognized it. I had so many opportunities before that. I came to notice later, but I never saw it, because I was not there. You know? So a way to be aware and to be present in our life. That’s the most important thing in anything. I mean, we cannot succeed in anything if we are not there when we are called to be there. No,

Rick Archer: yeah. No, I don’t think we want to give the impression that, you know, whatever you do, doesn’t have an influence on you, obviously. I mean, Nisargadatta Maharaj, was an Indian sage, very highly respected. He was a chain smoker, he actually sold cigarettes for a living, and he ended up dying of cancer. And there’s a famous Buddhist, Tibetan Buddhist teacher named Shogun Trungpa Rinpoche, who was an alcoholic, and he died in his 40s of alcoholism. So they say the body is the temple of the soul, and we don’t want to destroy it.

Lars Muhl: Hmm, exactly. Yeah. But there’s, I have come to, to realize that there’s a reason for everything. And I’m not the one to judge why that person or doing this, or even if I don’t understand it, but I’m not the one who can judge anybody. I mean, I have my own things to look after. And I to work it out. And I believe that everybody is on their way to do the exact same thing. So we just have to quit all this craziness.

Rick Archer: There’s that saying about not worrying about the moat in your neighbor’s eye when you’ve got a log in your own eye.

Lars Muhl: There it is, again, you know, everything is actually in there. Yeah.

Rick Archer: So you mentioned reincarnation a little while ago, and I presume that you will Well you tell us, do you in all of your studies. Have you found reincarnation to be part of the original teachings that Jesus was attuned to? And was espouse?

Lars Muhl: Yes, yes. Yes. The seeds for them were not believers. They knew, you know, what we have to understand is the scenes were actually some kind of quantum physics in a way but just the difference between our days quantum physics and their them was today, we are presented by a lot of theories, they practice it, you know, they, they consciously knew about it, you know? And I just love you know, because I think Carl Cousteau young, he came to know that secret, you know, maybe remember that very famous interview, where he was asked, Dr. Young, do you believe in God? And he said, No, I don’t believe in God. I know this knowledge, if I had been the interviewer, I would follow up, what is it that you know about that we have forgotten and elaborated on that. But I think that was exactly what the scenes because they were, they were practicing the chariot of fire practices that were, by which they were able to, to leave their bodies. They were able to, to, to connect to higher consciousness levels, and the book of life. So they, they were prophets. They were very skilled healers, and Pastor lower logos and stargazers and star dream interpretated and, you know,

Rick Archer: and you know, all this, because of your, your ability to speak Aramaic, and to have read all these ancient manuscripts. That’s, that’s where you’re getting all this that you’re saying?

Lars Muhl: Yeah, but there’s also historic ins from the time of Jesus who spoke about these things and talk that they were the respected people around them and they were a they believed in reincarnation a lot. Sure.

Rick Archer: My impression, and I’m by no means an expert is that there was all kinds of politics and you know, intrigue and whatnot and personal perspectives, that ended up getting all these beautiful scriptures and all this wonderful knowledge, edited down, and all kinds of things excluded that some person or other felt was inconvenient. I remember hearing there was some emperor who thought that reincarnation shouldn’t be in there. So he made sure that got out. And so yeah, I wonder what you know, what people now find as the New Testament, I wonder, what percentage of the actual knowledge that it represents, you know, is left, you know, maybe 10% 20% or something.

Lars Muhl: Yeah, that you just you remember the part when they ask John the Baptist? Are you a liar who have come back? And he said, No, but later on, Jesus said, You didn’t recognize him. You didn’t recognize ilaya When he came, and you treated him just like

Rick Archer: you. You killed him. It was referring to John.

Lars Muhl: Yeah, of course. And if you know the story about Elia, you would know that he had a pupil called Elysia, you can read about in the Old Testament in the Book of Kings, the second book of Kings, and ilaya. And Alicia, Alicia, when ilaya died, or he left, he was taken up by God, we can read in the chariot of fire. It happened exactly at the same spot at the River Jordan, where many years later, Alaya was baptizing Elysia or John the Baptist was do it through Tisha. So Joshua was a reincarnation of Alicia. And if you read about Alicia, you can read, he did exactly the same things. As Jesus, he went around healing people. He was raising the dead. He was doing all this food, miracles with feedings and fishes. Exactly the same. It’s in there in the Old Testament. So there he’s actually telling Yes, I, Alicia, who have come back, and he was Elia. And you can read, go and see the prophecies and things about from it, Casey. You do remember that Paul, he said, Yeshua, was after the order of Melchisedec. Forever. What is the order of melted messy Siddiq is actually an early incarnation of Joshua also. So all the Early incarnations of Joshua, this that’s making up the order of the military setting, meaning, the King of Righteousness, what that what is Melzi Siddiq means the King of Righteousness. And the teacher of righteousness was the leader of the scenes. You can read all about it in the dead squad that is called So Joshua was there than you miss ascetic. He was the new avatar, so to speak, the one that I have been waiting for for so many years. And without knowing it, he’s suddenly now is the leader of the the big thing in Christianity, but he had never heard about it and I think he would not understand anything about that at all. From from what he was about, you know,

Rick Archer: Yeah. So what to just to make clear that I understand what you just said. So you said that the the being that we refer to as Jesus actually had a number of other reincarnations in which I don’t know how many years prior or how many how far back it goes. But in which he did similar things to what Jesus is reputed to have done similar miraculous things. Is that


right? Okay. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.

Rick Archer: And so, I don’t know how widely spaced those different incarnations were. But maybe you could tell us but it’s been 2000 years, apparently, since his last one. And everybody keeps waiting for the next one. Do you think there’s going to be a next one? or have there been any between 2000 years ago, and today? You

Lars Muhl: see, it’s actually something that goes on within each one of us. He said when, before he left to His disciples, He said, If I don’t leave, the Holy Spirit will not be able to play the role. That is, actually because now it’s been given to everybody. Now, it’s a matter of what you choose, okay? So if I don’t leave now, you would not be able, you would follow me forever. And you will just be like, you know, but listen, there’s no gurus anymore. The whole cool thing is over. Now you go and do and make because Haven’t I told you that the kingdom of heaven is within you. Okay, so now you go and connect to it. Because wherever you go, you bring it with you. So you don’t have to run from here roads to plateaus, you don’t have to go there or there. Because right where you are, is where the kingdom is. So, and this still stands, and we now is the time that we have to understand it, and really take it upon us and start connecting, it doesn’t mean that Yeshua was not a son of God. He was just not the only begotten one. He was the first one, he was our big brother. And he had come to us through all the ages as an avatar, trying to tell us the same story over and over again. And I think now it’s the time for us to really, maybe just take another stand and choose again.

Rick Archer: Even when you say the first one, I think, you know, it’s like, there are probably trillions of planets in the universe with highly evolved life on them, each of which have had their own sages and saviors and, and even on even if we narrow it down to this little planet, there probably been people 10s of 1000s, hundreds of 1000s of years ago of that caliber.

Lars Muhl: You say you see, you have a kind of what to work? I don’t know what to call it, you have a kind of

Rick Archer: vessel or something?

Lars Muhl: Yeah, a vessel of of possibilities, you know. And Joshua was given to us together, but but I think that the same kind of spirit. Where did Joshua go? When he left here? Maybe went to some other system out there, to where did Buddha go? Where did all those when they were taken up by God, you know, died? They were taken up? You know, you have the the transfiguration. You know, it’s like the rainbow body of the Buddhists, you know? And all these can, it’s in all traditions they tell about these things. And the main thing for us, we don’t have to speak relate, where did they go? Now we have to speak with Where are we going? Yeah, we can do the same. We have been told that. So why don’t we just take on our shoes and start working on this?


Yeah, yeah.

Rick Archer: I remember hearing you say that you actually have experienced a UFO maybe more than once even. And do you think that you know, and you mentioned the phrase Chariots of Fire recently and some people feel like some of the accounts of things that happened, you know, of a God’s coming down from the sky and all this stuff, relate to actual extraterrestrials and that they are somehow involved in the affairs of our planet, perhaps with various different motivations, but some of them being very spiritual and helping to foster our spiritual enlightenment. You have any thoughts on that?

Lars Muhl: Of course. If you were going back 2000 years in time, and you went to the scene University in and you came down in a UFO, and you stepped out and said, Hey, friends, come and take a ride in this and they’ll just look at it and say, I mean, why we are able to To travel anywhere we want without this piece of crap. You know, it’s very, in many ways, the thought of us going into a rocket and go to the moon is very primitive, you know, I mean, we are surrounded by beings that don’t need any UFOs to travel anywhere because they can go wherever they want. And, you know, it’s when I started,

Rick Archer: they live in subtle bodies, and we have gross bodies. So maybe, yeah,

Lars Muhl: when you come into this, and you have you ever seen UFOs, you know, they are there, and suddenly they’re not there, right? You can’t, you don’t even see they go anyway, they just aren’t there in poof, it’s like you, you, you turn on the light and you turn it out again, you know, they’re gone, they’re gone, you know. So this is a matter of choice. They are there all the time, even if we don’t see them. Yeah, doing whatever they are walking around. Between us, you know, with all kinds of tasks to do or looking after us or helping, they could actually be the part of the whole Angel, angelic thing, you know, but when I worked with the CEO, he said some to if client phoned him and said, so and so. So he would say, Okay, do you mind me, I have to go out before time and space, to look at this. And people have said all before time and space, this will, are going to take a long time, you know, but actually what he meant he was just go into another kind of consciousness, to another consciousness been before time and space, it’s all there, it’s out of us, you know, you can go there, I can go, everybody can go eat, people are even going there without knowing what happened. Just like that, like flies in the air coming back, you know, every, every night, when you sleep, we leave our body, we go out we have been educated, or we are going out to do different kinds of things on other levels of consciousness, and you come back, and the last plane is the astral planes, the lower astral planes may be, and you don’t remember a thing about what was going on. But this is kind of our abilities. And without it, we will not be able to live at all. So we have actually there are two kinds of life, one that we are conscious about, and one we are not conscious about. But just imagine that we have many more layers that are going on simultaneously, you know.

Rick Archer: And in their father’s house, there are many in my father’s what is it? There are many mansions

Lars Muhl: in my father’s house, there’s many mentions. And that means there’s many other universes, other planets, or the consciousness levels, you know, you pick one, you go there. So the, the difference between the our current quantum physics and that you seemed, for example, is that they could go there, you know, by choice, sit down and sit themselves into the, the chariot of fire situation, and just go it’s all in the Kabbalah. It’s all in many of the scriptures.

Rick Archer: Yeah. I think probably everybody, if anybody doesn’t resonate with what Lars is saying, feel free to send in a question, but I think it’s probably pretty clear what he’s saying. And even physics tells us there’s a level of creation that is more fundamental than time and space. And then time and space kind of emerge from that, that deep level. So what you’re saying is that human beings, you know, they don’t need some big, large hadron collider or something they could they have a nervous system, which can actually take them to that level, you know, that.

Lars Muhl: It’s, if you think about it, to to, to step into some kind of machine that should take you somewhere, you know lightyears out. It sounds a little bit you know, it, you forget about your own abilities, and our connection. Remember, we were born in the image of God, and we have to read understand what it means. But the gift all the gifts we are given, you know,

Rick Archer: somebody once asked marshy, Mahesh Yogi about UFOs and he said, the truck drivers of the universe.

Lars Muhl: Yeah, yeah, that’s what I mean. It’s a kind of primitive. What you’re talking about?

Rick Archer: Yeah. So, you know, you were with the seer for seven years studying, studying. You know, if you could summarize like, what kind of person were you at? After seven years compared to what you were when you first met him, how, what kind of changes did you undergo? And, and how, and were those changes permanent.

Lars Muhl: I was so much more. Both humble and much more confident in what I was about. And by that, I mean, when I met him and saw what he was doing, and all the problems he had, personally, of coping with this world. I mean, he lived forums. Yeah, he got, he could not cope with this world. He had very hard to socialize and get, you know, because nobody really, those people in his generation he wanted to socialize with in southern Spain. We’re all playing golf, you

Rick Archer: know, they don’t understand him. Yeah. You know,

Lars Muhl: the Florida Miami thing, you know, but but he was not a demo. He just tried so hard, you know? Yeah. And he, they had not a clue, they didn’t have a clue of what he was all about. So there was nobody he could talk about. He was a lonely man. So I was the one. So every time I left him, after we had been working together for a month or two, a week after I had come home, the you need to come down here again. And it suited me well, you know. And that just also we been I was, after years, I became his good friend, you know, on equal footing, so to speak, you know, I’m going to be the he came also treat to respect the things I were doing. And, you know, he was not the one who gave things away in that way. Yeah, we are. Were I don’t you know, in the beginning, he said to me, I really don’t understand why I said yes. To check you in. How could I be so stupid? And he looked

Rick Archer: into your and he was scolding you? Right?

Lars Muhl: Yeah, really, really. And that was going on for quite a while.

Rick Archer: But it’s sweet that you say that you became his good friend, and that he had been kind of lonely? It’s sweet. It’s so it was mutually beneficial. It wasn’t just him helping you?

Lars Muhl: No, no, we had we had something to give each other

Rick Archer: screen. And so aside from humility and confidence, what changes did you undergo through your tutelage with him?

Lars Muhl: All yem the practice bit, you know that, because suddenly, everything I read, was giving shoes to walk in, you know,

Rick Archer: so he got you into practicing, as opposed to just reading. Yeah. And

Lars Muhl: also really gave me some explanation of how everything worked, you know, that when what is the healing all about? You know, we could come into a local body Bodega out in the mountains, you know, and they served only one wine, they had the local one that off very often was very, very bad, you know, sour, like. So he just took the wine and looked at it for just, and then he gave it to me and said, Try it now. Huh, wow. It just became softer and much more, you know, does it need some more? He said, Jim, yeah, give it some. And suddenly, we’re sitting there drinking the most profound and beautiful wine. And he, he said, Listen, I asked him, How can you do that, and he showed me how to do it. And you can do it, everybody can do it. You just have the wine, the glass of wine in front of you. So you put your hand around it. And just from the, from the middle of your palm, the center of your palm, you feel that there is a connection, and you create a sacred space around the line. And when you can feel it really are electrifying between the two hands, you put your hands on top of the glass, and you sent from the center of your palm, cast blue light into the wind, just like your laser beam. And when you feel that is enough, from your fingers, tips of your fingers, you sent golden light in. And when you’re finished, you just close it. And he did all these things in one glance, to see and this is also something I do now when I every time I eat my dinner or whatever. I just connect to the food. You see every wine. It doesn’t matter what kind of wine has an archetypical mother archetype of wine, you know, that holds all the best qualities of what anyone is. So what he does, he could knit to the, to the, to the mother of all wines, you know, like if it, if it will heal you, he would take you back to your original state, you know, and get rid of all the things that you have been collecting and who’s now weighing you down or are more or less making you ill, he will take that away and bring you back to your original state, you know, back to zero, he would so so to speak zero you and connect you to your higher highest qualities bring you back to the best version of who you were supposed to be. So you can do that with anything. And that’s really the secret plan, that you have to focus on them. Be there when you are needed. And not just be there intellectual, but be there with your whole being. So to your life being you know, you’re the child of God within you has to really be present there. So it has nothing to do with your personality. It is about who you really are.

Rick Archer: So when Jesus turned water into wine, or multiplied the loaves and fishes or raise the dead or walked on water and all that stuff, and perhaps he was doing something similar, but perhaps even to a much more profound degree. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I heard you to tell a story of getting into a pretty serious car accident when you were driving, I guess from I forget somewhere back to Denmark. And you experienced your guardian angel when you thought it might be interesting for you to tell that story.

Lars Muhl: Yeah, I was driving home. I had been really busy. I have also been the car and I have had a group I have been taken around really been a long season for me, you know, being both taught by the car and also doing my own thing there. And I was I remembered I was going home. I woke up two o’clock in the morning and just went straight direction Denmark. And woke I came by after have hit the I was driving 140 kilometers an hour and I just

Rick Archer: hit the median divider. They call Yeah, yeah. And

Lars Muhl: I lost control of the car. It was somersaulting. It was rolling over, you know, out in the field, two meters down. And I woke up 50 meters from the car. And it was standing there. And I thought I was done. I had died. It was so peaceful. And I came back into my body to my crown. And the first thing I saw was a young woman standing in front of me, I think five meters away from me. Big smile. And she’s she looked at me. She said she Yeah, she had a cross, equal food it costs around her neck. And she said, when you can survive this, you can survive anything. And she was just smiling. And it was there that I saw that it was a German man sitting kneeling beside me and was very worried at but at no time did that young woman and he has any communication. So when I was taken by the rescue team, the last thing I saw and heard her say was, don’t worry about the thing. Everything is taken care of. And she was just smiling and waving. They like came to the hospital. There was nothing. I mean, it was a miracle that I survived. It. I my body, of course felt like it had been doing 50 rounds with Mike Tyson also. Besides that, there was nothing wrong. So when I came back, I wanted to connect to those two people, because there was nobody else in the accident. They didn’t take any report. But there’s no doubt in my mind that she was my guardian angel who came there in that situation. And everyday is instead I talked to my guardian angel. And just recognize her and talk and have a chat with her.

Rick Archer: Did you have your ear? Did you ever receive built on or did or did you some did that German guy take you out of the car and drag you away?

Lars Muhl: I went out of the car myself and just collapsed.

Rick Archer: Right? You unhooked yourself and got out? Yeah, yeah,

Lars Muhl: everything just automatically and he walked me away from the car because he was he was afraid it would explode. Right? Right.

Rick Archer: So I heard you say when you told this story that you feel that everybody has a guardian angel, at least one and they they kind of stay with us all of their animal lives.

Lars Muhl: I’m positive I believe For this accident, I knew about these things. And the failed connection. But that was the the manifestation of her. She she manifested in front of me.

Rick Archer: Yeah, I have at least one friend and actually more who see this stuff routinely is just like you and I see other people walking down the street, they see these subtler beings, then. And they apparently they, sometimes there’s more than one and they’re constantly attending to us and helping us in various ways. It must be a very frustrating job in some cases, because we’re so crazy. You can see a nice question came in from Paul DS in Santa Cruz, California. Paul asks, some could you speak on how best to integrate intense awakening experiences? Sometimes the nervous system plays catch up, you know, to the realization and is in a state of sensitivity to great for functioning in the so called normal world?

Lars Muhl: Can you explain that to me?

Rick Archer: Yeah. In other words, he’s saying sometimes you have an intense awakening, and, and your nervous system. It takes a while to adjust to it. And yeah, so and so like you said, when you were 10, it’s too sensitive to function in the normal world. So I guess he’s asking, Well, how do you adjust? How do you acclimate? How do you stabilize, so that you can function in the normal world and yet, live, this increased awakening that you have undergone

Lars Muhl: the worth, the thing is, if you’re not aware of what is happening to you, and you have, you cannot explain it to yourself, and nobody can help you explain what is going on. That is, it makes you so uncertain that it is it’s a stress on the nervous system, of course. But if you have a clue of what is going on, I would say that, if it’s, if it stress you in your nervous system in that way, it means that there’s something in there that needs to be purified. And so you must pay attention to it. And maybe you need to go to a therapist, or whatever I don’t know, or you start praying and have conversations with God every day or with your angel, you can do that. At the same time, too. I would say go find a good therapist that know about these things that can help you go through it and get rid of all the it’s a lot of times it’s old stuff, maybe even from a former incarnation that you brought with you that needed some attention. And now it’s the time for it. So I would say don’t be scared. Don’t ever thought, take care of it. You know, yeah. And it’s also good to take time out, dressed and to really meditate on it, you know, to go deep into it, connect to it. That’s the best thing.

Rick Archer: Good. Yeah, I would add also Paul that, you know, taking like, like, Lars was just saying, Take taking care of yourself getting enough sleep, get wholesome food, good exercise, you know, some grounding exercises, like swimming or walking in the woods, or maybe some some yoga to kind of like, make your body more flexible, and, and all that stuff, nice grounding stuff, and avoiding any intoxicants or drugs or, and also, you know, don’t over meditate. If you’re doing some kind of spiritual practice, and it’s getting really intense, you might need to scale back a little bit. And don’t do more, because it’ll be even more difficult to handle. But you can integrate this stuff. I mean, the greatest sages who ever lived are living in a state that if we were to go into that state, suddenly it would be we would explode, but they have integrated it and are able to function in that state. And that’s the whole idea. So hopefully, that helps. Another question came in here. This is from someone named Tom in Southgate, Michigan. Tom asks, What do you both think about the subject of spiritual warfare? Being a reality for humankind to contend with some kind of battle for souls or energy? I think he’s asking are there some kind of good and evil forces you know, that are fighting over us and trying to win our souls over to the dark side or the light side or something? Do you have any thoughts on that?

Lars Muhl: Yeah. In in, in this world we are living in on the three dimensional plane. We are the creators have any dark or you again, it’s a matter of choice. I feel that a lot of the lower astral things that is going on is all created by men. You know Then people, they start complaining that they, how can they be a god when there’s war there and femin there. And I have to remind him, it’s all because of the choices that we made, you know, because we were given this gift. We were even being ambassadors of God. And we were told, take care of this take care of the animals take care of mother earth, please. But what have we done? You know? So we have, there’s so many things we didn’t understand. So we created also a lot of mind stuff that is going on this year, he said, If you think that stores are free, have a toll free, forget it. They create reality, you create reality, with your thoughts, you know, they leave a mark, you know, at the most, the worst thing about the pollution that is going on is actually the pollution created by our thoughts and deeds. And we have to deal with it. And so I think that is what we experienced when there is dark and, and light forests. There’s also people who asked me, How can we protect ourselves, but even the thought of that you need protection will attract something that will attack you, you know, if you if you know that nothing can attack you. If you keep to your path, and do your work. Nothing can there’s it’s impossible. Yeah. You go have you open yourself up to it? By start to dealing with all this stuff. I mean, there’s, you don’t have to think that there’s a lot of thing going out up here, be a Masters of doing that here on Earth, ourselves.

Rick Archer: It’s true. Yeah, I think what, where you put your attention makes a big difference. And if you spent a lot of time watching horror movies and putting your attention on negative things, and also if you weaken your yourself with various sub substances, and so on, you become much more susceptible to negative influences wherever they may be coming from. Exactly. But just as a follow up question, if it’s true that we have guardian angels who are positive and holy, and are looking out for our welfare, could it not also be that their negative counterparts to those who were Mischief Makers who were trying to make trouble for us?

Lars Muhl: The Fallen Angels are us. End of story. So those other angels would be talking about the guardian angels are here for us. But if you have a friend in Michigan, and you found that friend, every day, and that friend will never answer your call, you decide to go to Michigan, and see that friend, and you can see it that that your friend is in the house, you go and knock the door but isn’t open, they take down all the curtains, you know that of his of his they don’t want to meet you, then you give up the same way with your angels. If you don’t, they try to contact us every day, you know, they try to help us. But if we don’t respond and don’t kind of if you’re not connected to your higher intuition, or your higher self, and you just do fools and you turn your back all the way all you need to go down on a bed for three years or something crazy. In order to find out that you must change. You know, that’s when we get a lot of heavy stuff on the head or our wives lift levers or you’re getting sacked or whatever. Wake up call. Yeah, exactly. And that is the Indian Oil, who comes in and said the fire of of God, so to speak, said wake up.

Rick Archer: Yeah. And maybe we don’t have to be sick for three years or have some horrible thing to happen to us. If we go ahead and take the initiative to you know, start you know, doing best practices or whatever.

Lars Muhl: That’s the message. Yeah. Nick to the best version of you and forget about all the other stuff.

Rick Archer: Yeah. A question came in from someone named Sarah in the UK. She says you mentioned the chariot of fire. This is commonly referred to as the merkabah in various traditions of vehicle to let the subtle body travel to other astral realms. Can you say anything about activating the merkabah?

Lars Muhl: Yeah, it’s all in my books and in my workshops. There is a whole kind of recipe for for opening up to that is called PCM PCM add on. I mean, mainly Mikhail will be small recap or yell will be live and I will only echo if we are all shaking in the bar Bartleby, Misha,

Rick Archer: and that’s all Aramaic word. Yeah, that is the

Lars Muhl: scene code. So to speak for the for the fire. chariots of fire for the America. But that is not all this is just the introduction to that is and you you need to understand every word of what that is. And you have to connect to it with your whole being so, but that is my work, so to speak to introduce people who are interested in this tradition into that, and to the esoteric Christianity, so to speak.

Lars Muhl: Can I say yes, please, to that lady, you can go to YouTube, and you can write my name and the gate of light, and you will see a half an hour film from the cave for from the Kumaun, where most of the Dead Sea Scrolls were found in in that cave, Joshua spent 40 days in the desert. And you can see me perform this chariot of fire there, the gate of light, and my name, and you will find new

Rick Archer: tomb. Okay, good. I can even if you want, I can even find that and put a link on your page on bat gap so people can jump right

Lars Muhl: to it. That is very crucial to my work. This is a special moment in my work.

Rick Archer: Okay, so here’s a quick question. And then I’m going to ask you something that might take us a little longer to discuss this is Susan from New York asks, please ask Lars to talk a bit about the Kabbalah and what he learned about it.

Lars Muhl: There are so many Kabbalah or cabbalistic schools in it, you know, I’m, I’ve been traveling to Israel a lot. And I also spoke to some of the greatest rabbis there and talking about these things. And you will find that if you go into one, capitalistic school, they have one recipe and one way to work and if you go into another and so on. So it is really they have put in a lot of protection, so to speak. So people that are not Jews. They are not able to get in and and get the veal. Come on, you’re what you call it.

Rick Archer: The real the real teaching that we’ll deal Yeah, yeah.

Lars Muhl: So it is very much up to you, whoever you are, to find your way into it. And the problem with that is there’s so many pitfalls you can and dead ends. So most people they just give up. But I have been kind of lucky, you know, so to be dead, I was able to know the language. And I could work with the things and I could ask the rabbis and because they knew I could talk the language, they would open up some of these stuff for me, you know, but mostly, it is about practicing yourself and finding how does this feel to you? What does this do to me, I mean, if somebody came to you and said, You have to stand on your head, two times half an hour, every day, you have to put one piece on top, you know by, and then you have to stand there for half an hour. And then you go into the you know, and you have not if you don’t have a clue why you’re supposed to do it, but you’re just doing it, nothing will happen. So this tells you that you know, you have to really invest yourself in this. And I, I would like to just share something with you know, because, you know, Christianity is more or less built on one word sin, you know, sin. But actually, there’s no word for sin in aremy. Sin means when you are not when you are missing the mark. And when you miss the mark, you can only do that because you’re not present. Yes. So to be there, as I told you before, and to be present, and to be there when you’re needed, and just invest your whole being into whatever you’re doing, then you will succeed. And when I’m talking about success, I’m not talking about success in life or anything, you know, some of the most successful people in in our reality, they will they will never come close to what I’m talking about, but they can still be successful. So to succeed in what I’m talking about is a total investment of your whole being not just your business kind of sight. You know, this is the inner most part of you that must be exposed and open up like a heart that opens up towards this end you send all your email. Remember, Joshua is saying to us, don’t hide your light underneath a bush you So that inner light is that light of the inner kingdom that is he telling us is within us. Now you must allow this light to shine out into the world and create a sacred space wherever you go. In the supermarket, when you’re doing your laundry, whatever you are doing, when you make love to your lover, when you speak to your best friend, or what, whoever you meet, you can actually be in that sacred space. But it takes practice. So this is what my work my personal work has, or what I’m talking about our personal experiences, not some crazy theories that are read in books, you know, because I have read so many books. And when I met the CEO, I understood one thing that I didn’t understand anything, I didn’t have a clue of what they were talking about. But when I met him, who have never really read anything, I started slowly, it dawned on me, what I was the biggest fool on Earth, the beast idiot, you know, because I had packed all my stuff on one number, you know, and it was the wrong one. So, yeah, this is the the thing, investors that if you follow the BCM, Adonai, that I just recited before, you need to go in and read every of every line and understand what it means. And take it in, meditate on each line on each angel that is meant May is is mentioned there.

Rick Archer: And that one is in the god formula, or where do you get it is

Lars Muhl: in the god formula, it’s in my book, The Law of light. It’s also in my book, The Gate of light, that is all talking about this stuff.

Rick Archer: Okay. And also, before we finish today, you’re going to give us a practice. But we’ll get to that in a little bit. So, as I mentioned to you, before we started, like, I listened to about 12 hours of your talks and interviews in the past week. I’m crazy. Just, there’s plenty of time now the shutdown, and I walk in the woods, and I listened to hours and hours of the person I’m going to interview next and so wonderful way to spend the week. And when I say that, if anything, the majority of the time I heard you speaking here we’re talking about something which is summarized in this little quote that I’ll read right now is in the Gospel of Thomas, Yeshua says the following. When you when you make the to one, and when you make the male and the female into a single being, so that the male is not male and the female, not female, then you will enter the kingdom. So let’s discuss that.

Lars Muhl: We have to go right back to the old chest of men, where it says that God created man in His own image. As man and woman, He created them. So there you have the man and a woman. Yeah. So if I’ll take you back to two, medical, Tardis Yemaya, the kingdom of heaven. The first letter of matar is men, which is their feminine. And the first letter of Shemaiah is Shin, which is fire, and mescaline. So you have water, Mim and you have seen fire, feminine and masculine, you know, in the kingdom of heaven. And you remember that John the Baptist, he said in the New Testament, I came to baptize you with water, but there will come somebody after me who baptized ties you with fire. So there you have it again, the feminine and the masculine, when they become one, you can move mountains. So they are talking about the feminine and masculine within you and me and everybody else. So you just have to elaborate what does that mean? What kind of qualities is the mescaline in you? And what is the feminine in you? All this I have tried to elaborate in my digital small book, The God formula. So it’s all in there. But you see the practice I really wanted to share with you is you know that Yeshua is talking about, he will send the Holy Spirit when needed and Holy Spirit in Aramaic is Hawker de cuccia just take the sound in just tasted Hawker. The cuccia meaning Walker meaning electricity, breath hold Spirit and cuccia as it was supposed to be holy. So Holy Spirit, rugged culture. Now use that as a think of that as a mantra. So, you inhale through the heart chakra in the middle of the baseball, while you saying to yourself, or get a cold shower, pause. And when you exhale, you use the Aramaic word for kingdom of heaven, which is malcode TARDIS Yemaya. So meaning, you are now activating the hookah cuccia on your inhaling breath, and manifesting the Kingdom of Heaven around you with medical tissue. So, just try this. And the breast must come all the way down to your stomach. So when you inhale, the stomach must come out. And when you exhale, just press your slightly your, your stomach in. So it goes like this. Inhale, awkward Akasha Mallacoota Tisha Maya, who got a cuccia bass guitar is your Maya. Or until you are familiar with the army, you can say, Holy Spirit, kingdom of heaven, Holy Spirit, kingdom of heaven, you are calling for the Holy Spirit. You are so to speak, activating it, because it’s right there where you are. And you are manifesting the inner kingdom of heaven around you on exhaling. This is my daily practice, wherever I go. If I come into a place that where there’s a tense feeling or atmosphere, I sit down in a corner for five minutes and do this without anybody know me do. And you will see the whole thing evaporating and everything will be calm and find and you just go on. You can do it anywhere. And you can heal yourself. When you become familiar with it. It’s the strongest prayer that I know. And it’s my experience. And I’ve done it for so many years now that I use it in healings in Yeah.

Rick Archer: Is there a web page where these instructions are written down?

Lars Muhl: It’s in the god formula in the formula book. Okay. And it’s shown there, how it’s done. And also some variations of it. How you can work with it.

Rick Archer: Yeah, there’s a diagram actually in the book. Okay, good. Do you do it, aside from doing it in a tense situation or while you’re standing in line at the post office or something do sit down for a certain amount of time in the morning or something and do that practice?

Lars Muhl: Yeah, I do it. Eight o’clock in the morning.

Rick Archer: All right. If anybody has any questions about that, well, we’re still talking here, feel free to send them in? Here’s a question that came in from Cheryl folds from Panama City, Florida, Panama, City Beach, Florida. She asked, did the original apostles do what Jesus asked them to do when he sent them out? Or was the message mixed in with their human tendencies? In other words, did they sort of corrupt what he had asked them to do?

Lars Muhl: Yeah, some of them did. You know, I mean, there was so many different people, between them, of course, they had different issues. And some of them was not really there, you know. And, you know, like, if you collect so many people, whatever, there will always be different kind of planes and nouveau for those. So they all had each had their own thing to deal with, on top do but I think that, yeah, they they learned some of them really became very good healers and prophets, you know,

Rick Archer: I heard you talk a lot about Mary Magdalene, and how she was not only not a prostitute as she has been portrayed, but was Jesus’s mate his wife, and, and was a high priestess in her own right. Even before they got together. She was a highly spiritual person. And that, I guess it was Peter, you said, was kind of jealous of her because Jesus was giving her so much attention and so much authority and everything and perhaps he was responsible for her tarnished reputation that ended up coming down through the ages.

Lars Muhl: Yeah, I mean, the first time I really recognized her voice, I was waiting for the Nag Hammadi scriptures, you know, the traumas Gospel of Thomas and Philip and truth and all these gospels. They were being there was I was waiting In this was in 1984, for an English translation of all those scriptures that were found in Egypt in 1945. And when I, it came, I just sat down and started reading from cover to cover. And after the Gospel of Thomas, I came to the gospel of Philip. And I just read and it was, I mean, I was blown out of my chair, you know, until I came to that sentence. Mary, the Macklin was the disciple that Jesus loved the most and often kissed on the and they never said hold in the manuscript to practice. So after having this shock that she was, he was actually kissing her very often, because he had chosen her somehow, I just had to find out what part of the body he kissed her on. And in an old Jewish Scriptures, much later, I found where they were writing about the customs of the days of Jesus, married couples never kissed each other in public, they never show show showed any kind of emotional things between them. So but in another place, I found that that was the way that they initiated, recognize each other, and referred each other, they kissed each other on the mouth. And we remember the case of Judas. So Judas might also have been an initiated, and it would have been strange if he hadn’t come up to Jesus and kissed him. Because he could have just pointed him out, you know, he didn’t have to go and kiss him. But he had to, in order to keep the, the rule, you know, between them. So yeah, the customer. So mer, the maximum was, of course, and on equal footing of Yeshua, because you can also read, she anointed him more than once. And you can read in the Jewish scriptures, that only the the one who’s going to anoint, somebody must be totally equal with that person. So if she was a whore, he must been a thief. But we could read that he was Jeshua, NASA Marine, he was Jeshua, the NASA Marine, meaning he was the initiated one, or the one who knows about things. So she was marrying the Magdalene meaning, marry him, the exalted one, that was her initiated name, like John was the Baptist. He that was his initiate name, he that was what my he was here. So she was the one who was above who could see things, he was a prophet. And he will say he, you know, a great healer. So that was what what she was all about. And, of course, they were married, we can read in the New Testament that the marriage at Cana, just after he started his mission, that is the marriage to two men, the Macklin she have been down with the therapist in need outside Alexandria, in Egypt, to be educated there. And there was an A mystery school there, that also educated women. And she came back and had the from there on, she was the teacher of the women, disciples, and he was of the male disciples, no doubt about it. And it was no ordinary marriage still just be they were, they were made, because they had this common thing they were there actually also to show the masculine and the feminine. In, in vitro manifested, and there is an old gospel of the gospel of the natural reigns with Jeshua, seeing something like this, I and my bride of one, exactly as Mary Magdalene, who have chosen for myself as an example, this one with me. So he’s talking about the bride on one side, I am my bride of one exactly as Myrna Macklin, whom I have chosen to myself as an example or teacher, or one with me,

Rick Archer: when he says bride in that quote, is he referring to Mary Magdalene or as what is you know, what is he saying?

Lars Muhl: The bride in Aramaic is Calcutta and Calcutta can also be any feminine, so to speak power. So what is

Rick Archer: the feminine principle is one with I have,

Lars Muhl: I have I and my feminine principle is one, you know, I have found and in Mary Magdalene, I’ve found a earthly woman or a mirror of that principle within me, therefore, I have chosen her to be an example to me, or my teacher, or my equal, you know, and visa versa. She had chosen him because in him he had to found the masculine principle within her. So I think that’s the most profound and beautiful saying that tells all about their relationship.

Rick Archer: And when we talk about, you know, making the male and the female into a single being, so the male is not male, the female is not female, and so on and so forth. It doesn’t mean, as you tell me if it does, but I don’t get the impression that it means that, you know, everyone is going to be sort of androgynous and that men are, you won’t be able to see any distinction in the degree of masculinity and femininity between men and women. But that, but somehow there will be a more natural balance, perhaps, goes elaborate on that a

Lars Muhl: little bit. It’s all about balance. Yeah, it’s all about that we have been living in a world in a society for too many years now, that is being led by an old patriarchal kind of power. And the days are over. And you see, there’s a lot of women who have taken the masculinity upon them even in a way that they’re all much too masculine. But now we have been through all the women slip, and all the things, now the time has come for us to understand that what what is masculinity all about? What is feminine femininity, about all about, and try to find the qualities within both of them, and put them together? You know, so the male are not just male, it’s also female. But in the end, you know, when we have to leave this, you have to remember when we came in here, before we were manifested, the minute we are born, we are born as a man or a woman. But before that, we had both in us, you know, you know, we were both. So it’s only when we manifest on a physical level, that we are becoming one or the other, you know, so when we leave, and we come over on the other side, at one point, when we are mature enough, we will see the same thing that we have become, so he’s already talking about that, yes, you are. And that is what we are kind of aspiring to, by working with here, and finding out that when you have a mate, that is female, if you’re male, and you have a female, you are, you know, kind of you have the chance to, and listen, he’s not talking about man or woman, he’s talking about male and female, you know, so, two men in can also with one of them female, and two women, you know, if one of them are male or female, so it’s, it’s more upon about to understand this, really, what he’s talking about what they’re talking about.

Rick Archer: So you mentioned two men or two women, you’re referring to, you know, homosexual relationships, and, but in, in which one might be more masculine or feminine than the other or something. And then there’s transgender, and these days, the whole gender thing, and the different people have different orientations to that, is, I go ahead,

Lars Muhl: Rick, I think, really, that I have some I have some homosexual friends. And I, you know, I’ve known them for many years, and I can see that, I think that they are embodying something new, you know, and didn’t you gender thing that is coming in between a lot of young church, you know, it is all pointing in decoration, something is drawing us into something, and we have to see it, you know, and we have to recognize something, we don’t know yet what it is, but I’m positive, that this has something to do with, you know, the other day in Copenhagen, I went into a shop, I had to buy a toothbrush or something. And it was a male, who dressed up as a female with nail polishing and you know, and I mascara and all these things. And I thought how wonderful. It was the most gentle, tender being, you know, that was just flying, you know, to the it was just amazing, you know, I never thought about is a boy or girl. It was a profound being, you know, in his own right,

Rick Archer: you know, very nice. Yeah. Here’s a question which I don’t know if you’re gonna want to try to answer this or not. It’s there. I mentioned earlier, this teacher named Sargon data. Maharaj is very highly respected. He’s the one I mentioned, smoke cigarettes, but that’s not relevant. But he once said this. Absolute is without quality and beyond consciousness. So he was saying that there’s a level of life which is so fundamental that it is beyond that is beyond all qualities and even beyond consciousness. And the questioner wants to know, if you can shed some light on this statement.

Lars Muhl: You know, I, I think the most important thing right now for humans is to recognize why we are here. You know, even a lot of spiritual people, they seem to don’t they don’t want to be here, really. So they, they use spirituality in order to get away, so to speak,

Rick Archer: or spiritual bypassing is the phrase, often you say that,

Lars Muhl: but I think when we really come to know, that be right now are manifested here as physical beings, there is a reason for that, you know, with all the dramas that we create, is that we have to, first of all, we have to find out, what kind of drama do we find ourselves in the middle of in the midst of and maybe now start to just to elevate ourselves beyond that, to go above that drama, and start to see what how is the world looking from there, and then take the next step. And in order to understand, but I am afraid that we don’t, we won’t understand what this guy you just decided what he’s talking about. But to me, there’s no doubt that there is a oneness level where everything becomes one like the doesn’t matter if you’re male or female, where everything is just I mean, and you are just welcomed, and you are accepted, exactly as you are. Because when you are on that level, all the dramas things that we are dealing with here just falls away. And we start to see clearly, the veil is drawn aside. And we see things as they are for what they are, and start to see how many things we are actually have to express our gratitude towards. Because this is another thing that we are very good at complaining, you know, there are so many things to complain about. But instead of complaint, we should do something about it, and then show our gratitude for all our ability to do something about

Rick Archer: Yeah, I jotted down through your book, a phrase that went like this world of answers, which begins where human intellect and three dimensional reality cease cease to exist. Exactly. Perhaps that’s the same thing he was.

Lars Muhl: In the problem in in our world today is that everybody is looking after answers in the world have questions. And you will only find temporary question answers with temporary value. You we really need to now dare to start working in any tradition, spiritual tradition, that will take us to the next level, and just open up and see what it’s all about.

Rick Archer: Yeah, here’s another quote from your book that relates to what you just said this time, which is perhaps a good thing for us to conclude on. He said, humans have only one life, but it is eternal. The soul is on a journey toward ever higher states of consciousness, and only humans themselves can determine the speed with which those states can be attained.

Lars Muhl: Exactly. But there are so many, as long as we allow ourselves to be caught up in the dramas of everyday life. I mean, we really not going anywhere, you know, so at one point, we will end up in a in a sick, sick bed or anything, we will have a wake up call, and maybe the corona thing is such a call, or whatever, you know, but you will get the call, and we need to respond to it and then make another choice and go on. The good news is that everything that we are looking for everything that we need and want, we already have, we just have to wake up and understand it, and just allow it to be manifested in our lives.

Rick Archer: It seems like the corona thing is some sort of wake up call. And now what’s happening in the US last few days is rioting all over the country. So that because this this black man was killed in a horrible way by a policeman, but the whole country is going crazy right now. I just wonder if this is I don’t know this has happened from time to time. And you know, in the 60s there was that sort of thing going on in a big way. Do you have any kind of sense from however, you would have gotten the sense of where the world is headed? I mean, then all of your reading is a sort of a heavenly world prophets prophesized. And do you feel like we’re going through a period of turbulence as a transition into a more heavenly type of system?

Lars Muhl: Yeah, we have always done that. So, the problem now is that we, we are becoming technocrats, you know, we, we have, we have put all our money on technical development, you know, and totally forgotten all about our own abilities, our inner abilities. And that’s where we come to now that we have to make the right choice. Now, people are talking about artificial intelligence and cars that drive by themselves, you know, all kind of, I would call really boring stuff. When you, when you think about what we are capable of, you know, it’s primitive stuff, you know, all these. And it seems like, I remember the film Avatar, and, and I thought it was a beautiful film onto those machines came in with people sitting in some machines. I mean,

Rick Archer: those are the bad guys. Yeah, yeah. But back to

Lars Muhl: the old story, you know.

Rick Archer: I mean, the good guy is just rode on a beat, and stuff,

Lars Muhl: you have to choose now. Yeah, what we want to be, you know, and what we want to do with it. And if we, if we are going down that road with, you know, with the same old story with people who wants to make money and greed and stuff on this, and that and doesn’t give a shit about how the world it turns out, you know, we need to stand up. And I think that the black people now have have, what they’re doing is something is needed to because or else, the same old store will just continue itself, somebody has to do something. And if you try to, to you ask some person very, very kindly, please, can you not, can you stop doing this, and nothing happens? I mean, it is our own fault. When things like this happen, we didn’t listen, we didn’t see it coming, you know, we did, we just thought, I have enough on my own plate, I will turn my back to this has nothing to do with me. And you know, when you go back to Joshua, in the New Testament, He was about the setback of the finest and highest rank. He was here to take care. And even if it took him to go into the temple, and just turn over all the money, it changes tables and saying enough is enough. Get out of my Father’s house, we must do the same in to be activists, spiritual warriors, so just be it doesn’t mean we have to kill or burn down something. But the result of what all the choices that have been made in America is showing itself now this is the result. If you if you don’t listen and do something about it, of course, people get desperate. Yeah. And when when, if somebody is coming now, in in next year, and said we have to be to vaccinate your with this stuff. We know it’s not good, but we have to do it, you know, because, or else you you will just spread this disease. And at the same time we are being manipulated with it in many different we have to stand up and say no, please. Yeah. Nobody would come and do it for us.

Rick Archer: Yeah, you know, if Jesus went into the temple and said to the money changes, you know, you guys probably really shouldn’t be here. Would you mind like taking your tables and go? They would have ignored him? Totally. He had to. He had to get a little bit more strict. Yeah. Well, Martin Luther King said that, how did it go that the arc of the moral universe is long, but it bends toward justice? Yeah,

Lars Muhl: I mean, when we are working, as with spirituality, we of course, also work on different levels we work on through prayer and visualization and stuff like that. We, this is one part of our work. Everyday this year. In his office, he started seven o’clock to eight, and he was concentrating on different parts of the world that needed some attention. And he told me, this is going on. All over the world. There are people sitting there in America and they’re and they’re doing exactly the same stuff. And I asked him, Are you connected? No, nothing. We don’t talk on the telephone of them. I just know they are there and they know I’m here and there’s somebody in Russia doing this or for the benefit of humankind. And actually On Mount Athos Have you know known about Mount at Greece? Yeah. Yeah. Where 5000 monks at this time are sitting every day and, and pray to the Virgin Mary, for peace in the world, there was a journalist who came and and confronted one of the bishops who said, it doesn’t seem to work with it, because there’s more of it in the piece upset? Oh, a young man, how do you think things would look if we didn’t do it? Yeah, good point. Yeah. So this is no excuse for us not to do it, you know, this is part of the work of being, but when that’s done, you go up, and you go out in your local community and see, is there anything here that doesn’t work? I need to go down there and say, Hello, we are we are some people here who don’t want this anymore. Those who want to be vaccinated, fine. But we are some people who don’t want it. And we have some Deema mcrsi here, some kind of democracy, and we just want to respect that, or whatever the problem might be, we can not go out and and dictate that other people should follow our ways. But we should respect that there are differences, and that you can you have your free will, you cannot be manipulated in any way. Of course, you cannot go and do bad stuff, take other people’s stuff or, you know, keep to that stick to the law of light within you. And if people around you could do the same, there would be no problem. Yes. Well,

Rick Archer: one thought that I always have, and perhaps you could comment on this, as a way of concluding is that, you know, like you said, I’ve heard you say, you know, life is like five minutes, it’s just such a flash in the, in the pan, in terms of the whole time span of our, the life of our soul and the life of the universe and so on. And so, you know, there’s that saying, Make hay while the sun shines, it’s a precious opportunity. And, you know, it’s in our best interest to make the best use of it, we possibly can in terms of taking whatever evolutionary opportunities there are taking full advantage of them, you know, making as much progress as as we can make. In this short life’s lifetime.

Lars Muhl: Yeah. Then we, of course, we must always define what is progress? What is real progress? Yeah. Whether by you know, because as I said before, it seems that we have, we have invested much too much on technology,

Rick Archer: I mean, spiritual progress, you know, coming closer to God, that kind of progress.

Lars Muhl: Exactly. Except we must, so to speak. manifest the gifts that we have been given, and get them going, you know, so if that’s happened, we realize that it’s nice to have a fridge, it’s nice to have a television, but these things are not God, you know? Sure. They just,

Rick Archer: you know, if you had had a self driving car, you might not have had that car accident, so that there is technologists can be good. But on the other hand, they’re not the our Savior. They’re not the they’re not the ultimate source of, of solutions or fulfillment for human beings. Okay, Lars. Well, thank you very much. What kind of things do you do aside from the tech the technique that you just taught us? What how can people connect with your plugin? I know you have your books, your Do you do any kind of webinars or anything seminars?

Lars Muhl: Yeah, I have done I have also done some work in America and visited a few times. But yeah, I do webinars in between. Yeah. Yeah, I’ve just a few

Rick Archer: probably can’t do them these days. But once you can get back to doing them no,

Lars Muhl: yeah. But I’ll do webinars as I have done a few. And I will do some, you just have to go to my website or my Facebook site. And its own announced there, what I’m doing and where I’m doing it.

Rick Archer: Good. I’ll link to those from your page on bat gap already. Well, thank you very much. It’s been nice getting to know you over the past week and having this conversation with you.

Lars Muhl: Thank you very much. Thank you for having me.

Rick Archer: I also appreciate it. Good. All right, thanks to those who have been listening or watching. As you know, this is an ongoing series so if you’d like to be notified when new interviews are posted, you can subscribe on YouTube. And also it once you hit the subscribe button. This little bell icon shows up if you hit the bell in addition to the subscribe button, then it really notifies you every time something is posting otherwise it just notifies you sometimes and also on on the bad GAAP website. You can Subscribe to an email notification and audio podcast and a bunch of other things are there. So check it out. So thank you. And thank you again. Lars. Thank you very much. Wonderful meeting you.

Lars Muhl: Yeah. And goodbye. All of you out there. Remember, you are already enlightened. That’s, that’s really something to remember. Thank you for listening. Thank you