079. Wayne Liquorman

Wayne LiquormanWayne Liquorman was both a spiritual seeker and a family man with a successful export business, when he met his first and final guru, Ramesh Balsekar, in September 1987. In April 1989 the process of seeking ended when enlightenment happened through the body-mind mechanism called Wayne.

Wayne describes the event as being “of interest only to seekers.” His first book, No Way: A Guide For the Spiritually ‘Advanced’ was published in 1990 under the pen name Ram Tzu because he “didn’t want a bunch of miserable seekers cluttering up his living room.” In fact, Wayne did not speak publicly until Ramesh asked him to do so in 1996.

This enlightenment event and its aftermath are described in Wayne’s second book, Acceptance of What IS, published in 2000. He is also the author of Never Mind… A journey into Non-duality, and the editor of Consciousness Speaks and several other books by Ramesh Balsekar, who refers to Wayne as his “spiritual son.” His most recent book, Enlightenment Is Not What You Think, was published in 2009.

The teaching, as it happens through Wayne, is pure Advaita (non-duality), uniquely presented in a uncompromising, sometimes humorous way, without religious dogma or new age veneer. In his Talks, Wayne is without agenda, speaking only in response to seeker’s questions. He talks about Consciousness: the ground of all being, the source and the substance of everything.

“This Advaita, as I talk about it, is not actually a philosophy, because it does not hold any tenets. It is simply a collection of pointers and concepts, and it posits that none of them are true in an absolute sense. This teaching is not about conveying the truth. It is about prying away the limitations and misconceptions about how things are.” - from Never Mind

Wayne’s message is clear and simple. Although he may suggest areas for further inquiry, Wayne offers no cures, practices, or miracles to reach enlightenment. He invites you to bring your most cherished beliefs to his Talks. If you are really fortunate, you may leave without them.

Wayne’s site: http://www.advaita.org/

Interview recorded 7/24/2011

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

195 thoughts on “079. Wayne Liquorman

  1. I have a few favorite torns that I like to place in my mental shoe, from time to time. This is one of then.

    “What is the source of my experience of the past?

    Is it my identification with a memory in the present moment?

    When I am recollecting a familiar and consistent past about myself, am I just identifying with a familiar and consistent string of memories in the present moment?

    And what happens to my experience of the past if I no longer identify with the memories which appear and dis-appear in the present moment?

    This is where the practice of anapanasati (AKA vipassana/insight) meditation has helped me. To see the appearance/dis-appearance of a memory (which is essentially a thought), in the present moment, and how I identify or not with it.

  2. Snowl/
    I know what you mean; i developed this way.
    i been in nonduality meeting and i should go to
    london to see Kilby i think this month-
    it is costy and i am not sure i will get anything
    out of it- guy i resonate with is Roger Linden-
    i think-
    anyway i see people who are like me there
    who can fall into it but once i while somone getsi
    it and everybody irs julouse and surprised-
    so i am not sure your advice can help-
    no problem- been in intrnet for a while – not
    looking for clashes really-

    what happen to the other robert – who
    was asking for dialogue about the artitecture of
    the mind-
    Michel-
    if i have somtin g of intrest to tell i wil
    write-

  3. I would like to give your questions a whirl Peter…. (below)
    and thank you for your attention of late. I’m finding vipassana to be helpful at this time. My emotional life can be crippling, making direct inquiry and simply living most difficult. I must say though, that for the most part, much of the teaching associated with it is rather dualistic in it’s nature, and that when I am clear I would be more inclined to side with Brian in this ongoing debate.
    But the bottom line as far as I can tell is that you are each addressing to different issues. While You are addressing more the emotional attachments of the individual personality that create conflict, Brian is addressing the miss-identification of awareness that creates the personality itself. Both to the same end, but for me, in the context of advaita, the ‘direct’ path feels more true.
    Both are of great value though, especially to those of us who flip flop in an out of identification, an identification that is nutty and tormented. It is my intention to cultivate a meditation practice for that very reason. I see no conflict what so ever.

    Here’s my take at your questions;

    “What is the source of my experience of the past?
    Thought

    “Is it my identification with a memory in the present moment?”
    Kind of. Identification with a thought posing as memory.

    “When I am recollecting a familiar and consistent past about myself, am I just identifying with a familiar and consistent string of memories in the present moment?”
    No, just one thought that contains the consistent string.

    “And what happens to my experience of the past if I no longer identify with the memories which appear and dis-appear in the present moment?”
    Nothing, the past doesn’t exist. However the experience of what’s arising in the present moment may have more juice.

    How’d I do?

    We do realize that at the end of the day no one is going to say anything that will say IT, and we can call it a wrap, don’t we?
    This is masturbation. Pure and simple. It’s fun and it creates the desire for more. No harm in that. Take it too seriously though?
    A sure road to madness. What we seek is always here and ‘we’ will know that when fortune smiles and we have a good laugh.

    “Stop making use of your mind and see what happens. Do this one thing thoroughly. That is all.” nisargadatta

    And if we must use our mind, I would HIGHLY recommend Sri Atmananda’s “ATMA DARSHAN” and “ATMA NIRVRITI” to all on this site who would really like to get to the bottom of these issues through our own direct experience. Not a casual read. These are work books.
    They go great with meditation and sits by the ocean……..

    Hey SL….. I’ve been really digging your posts lately. Simple expressions of a brilliant mind, full of heart, with no attempt to
    make sense out of that which is beyond. It’s almost like the only thing you know is that you don’t know a damn thing………
    This is for you brother……..

  4. There is a youtube link at the bottom of my last post. It was there and then vanished. If I click in the space below the worlds I can hear it but not see it. This is also happening on youtube for me. I click on a video, picture disappears and the sound plays. Anyway there is an unmanifest video for you all to maybe not see, but possibly hear.

  5. It’s still appearing on my mac chuckee … In fact, I’m listening to for the second time :]]

  6. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lN8XXaDrK4A&feature=related

    this is better of the history of the eath-
    if you can condence the history of the eath
    somehow in few pages without any dates-
    then connected it to history of man/
    the less you remmeber the better-
    refrence is good / going back one might add
    an ideas and crossing this with other models of
    ideas / i dismiss the first one i sent-

  7. to snowl
    you are right-
    not going to post them here-
    their place may be will be somewhere else.
    i am thinking of building general thinking material-
    any way that arrmy thing is for sure is propaganda by
    china – bluff- showing off-
    they shoutd have the genrousity to join
    together rathar than prepare for war-

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