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740. Lawrence Pintak

Lessons from the Mountaintop

Summary: A conversation about what mystics across traditions discover when doctrine falls away and direct experience deepens. The discussion also explores suffering, ego, subtle beings, inspired writing, and the idea that all paths lead to the same mountaintop.

Questions This Interview Explores

  • What do mystics from very different traditions consistently discover at the deepest level?
  • Why does spiritual progress seem to require being rooted in at least one tradition?
  • How can experiences of suffering, war, and conflict reshape our understanding of human nature?
  • What is the relationship between direct spiritual experience, sacred texts, and inspired writing?
  • How do universal consciousness, subtle beings, and the power of words fit into a seeker’s path?

Lawrence Pintak has spent his life grounded in facts while fascinated by the ethereal. An award-winning former CBS News Middle East correspondent with a PhD in Islamic Studies, Pintak has been a practitioner of Tibetan Buddhism for three decades and is an avid student of the perennial truths at the core of the world’s religions.

The author of seven books at the intersection of religion, media, and policy, his reporting and analysis on religion and international affairs has been published by The New York Times, Foreign Policy, the Washington Post, and many of the world’s leading media organizations. He also wrote about Buddhism and Eastern traditions for Shambhala Sun/Lion’s Roar, Buddhadharma, Beliefnet.com and others before 9/11 drew his focus back to the Middle East. Pintak’s most recent nonfiction book, America & Islam, was a finalist for the 2020 Religion News Association award for Religion Reporting Excellence.

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Website: pintak.com

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Interview recorded October 4, 2025

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