122. Ellie Roozdar, 2nd Interview

Ellie RoozdarThis is my second interview with Ellie. You might want to listen to the first one before listening to this one.

Ellie is a happily married woman for 29 years. She has been blessed, with two beautiful children—a lovely daughter and a sweet son.

She has graduated from SUNY at Stony Brook and has been teaching mathematics in high school and community colleges. After changing her career, she worked in Information Technology as a Quality Assurance Manage for many years.

Since childhood, she was seeing herself as a vision, which was not associated with the body at all. The question was arising, “Who am I?” This was never answered and it was there in her heart for a long time…
Since the year 2001, she has been inspired:

  1. To get to know who she is
  2. To find what she is searching for

For the past few years, she has had wonderful experiences by “going within,” meditating and discovering the Truth. The Truth reveals itself to itself by itself.
She would like to share these experiences with you.
She hopes that by reading her story, you also get inspired to “go within” and “discover” who you really are, and also find the authentic joy that resides within.

This is simply a discovery, not to become anyone or anything. Remember: Joy is already there, it just needs to be uncovered.
We learn to go within and to be a witness of the “nothingness.” It may be frightening at the beginning. All our life we want to be somebody and add something to ourselves and now we will face “nothingness.”
She wishes you all patience and the best of luck on this path. Please know that this is the best thing and the most important thing that you can do for yourself.

You will be happy that you took time and discover your True Self.

Love and light!

The Skype sessions that I arrange with the seeker, if they are ready is as following:

“Walking meditation” is a Guided meditation, by closing the eyes and  have this journey within. Symbolically, hand in hand  walking together, to recognize and identify the Truthdirectly. The one and only Truth that which the silence/stillness is pointing to. The Truth that has been overlooked all along, will be recognized by itself. This is awakening.

Ellie’s website

First interview with Ellie

Interview recorded 5/12/2012

Video and audio below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

63 thoughts on “122. Ellie Roozdar, 2nd Interview

  1. I just have to jump in here one more time to say:

    Absolutely Beautiful Ellie!! You hit on every major point of Ultimate Truth…
    – that the final spiritual journey isn’t for everyone
    – that it involves a death of the character or false sense of ego
    – that most people just want a better life not the end of the character
    -that no practice can bring one to ultimate fruition
    – that Grace is the ultimate decider in that regard, but that ‘willingness’ to die to oneself plays a huge role
    – that willingness is determined by spiritual maturity, a weariness with the search
    -that this process is one of demolition of the character – not development of it
    – that there is no purpose or free will for an illusory character
    -that one’s true purpose will be revealed when you know who you are
    -that feeding the mind more and more knowledge will not help you know the Totality.
    -that experiencing the full blown Kundalini process is not necessary for knowing oneSelf..
    -that the mind’s idea of emptiness (and fear of it) is not the true experience of it
    -that running from teacher to teacher is not helpful..and can be confusing..and is just a putting off of realization
    -that emotions arise in the state of liberation but they arise within the space that we are – they happen WITHIN us, but not TO us, so ultimately living as the Totality, they are not felt in the same way..
    -that trying to purify the character and resolve every emotional issue prior to waking up is an endless process, so better to capture the fort (the Self) and see what remains..
    – that ‘Who am I’ is the only important question to ponder.
    -that this Mystery cannot be named or defined only lived..and it is lived in peace and joy and love and bliss..
    -that when all is seen as the Self, there is no judgment bad or good – but the Totality can readily know if another is speaking from that essential Truth
    -that intimacy and com-passion (with passion) are hallmarks of the enlightened
    -that Silence is golden and is the true pointer back to the Self..and attention to it, brings fulfillment
    – that being with an enlightened one in the Silence, can serve as a catalyst for dropping the character
    – that a coach or guide can be most useful in helping one discern truth from untruth and navigating the way
    -that witnessing is a natural process of attention toward the Self at a certain stage, but witnessing is not done by the character..and is not the ultimate state
    -that there is still separation in God Consciousness ie., me and my beloved..
    -that strong beliefs stand in the way of realization..especially the belief in the character.
    -that as Rumi says – the whole journey is thus:
    seeing it, declaring it, loving it and living it..

    Thanks for your honesty and courage and generosity of spirit – that’s the only doorway I know to the kingdom of heaven..

    I hope to contact you one day to perhaps have tea -since we both live in New York and work the same way – free of charge and out of love..
    from my heart to yours..

  2. Listening to the 1st interview with Ellie Roozdar last October I got such a rush of energy. Some beings are peaceful and some sound even depressed upon awakening but Ellie was so full of life and excitement. I contacted her soon after and she was so unbelievably helpful and available and genuine. As a result, she greatly helped me see the Truth. I am happy that you interviewed her once again because Ellie’s energy is very catching and joyful.

  3. Thank you Rick for all you put into these interviews..Everyone appreciates the tender love, and clarity you bring to each..

    and Heat Seeker – will try to check in now and then if I feel moved to do so…miss you all – but others need to speak too..felt I was monopolizing the blog..

    I couldn’t help join in today though -Ellie was so very clear on the essentials and wanted to reinforce what she said…just loved hearing her speak Rumi in Farsi…

    I’m so happy you are pursuing the Truth that you are…via Neelam and Adya..the mother/father Divine Spirit embodied in both of them..-great guides -no need to look further..

    I like what you’ve been writing lately…honest and insightful – so yes I can tell something is stirring..If you stay with it, honor it, I promise it will never leave you..
    sending love –

  4. If that conviction & enthusiasm doesn’t convince “the character” to relax and drop in, not sure what would!

  5. Her background as a high school math teacher serves her well. (Plenty of experience of explaining stuff to people …)

  6. Thank you for the vid Ising…one of my favorite groups back in the day was the Loving Spoonful…used to cut class to see them play in the Boston Commons while in college there.
    I hope all is well with you – and I’m so glad to see you are speaking your beautiful wisdom more and more through both prose and poetry…that’s part of ‘declaring it’ that Rumi speaks of..
    Love you..

  7. Jill:
    Please continue to stick around here and comment in your unabashed, uniquely insightful way that everyone values.

  8. Ellie was kind enough to give me some telephone time with her last Thursday. I had many questions, mainly to do with the weariness of the search and the fear of taking the “leap.”
    This was of great help. Ellie showed me clearly the games my mind is still playing, and held them up for me to see. She offered to stand with me and see if I am ready to run into the ocean waves.
    After we hung up my ego went into defense mode for a couple of hours, then that subsided. The next day I knew something had shifted, and was feeling lighter, brighter and more free. I think Ellie shook something loose and it dropped away, much to my relief.
    No, I’m not an enlightened master yet, but look forward to the next talk with Ellie. Just having a conversation with somebody who is so crystal clear causes big changes.

    Thank you Ellie, thank you Rick.

  9. I need an answer……..I’m having trouble accepting there is no free will. If that is the case, what is the point? If source is doing it all, then why try? If murderers are merely ignorant; playing their character and source is doing it all, then that means source is ignorant. Is it not that source or God has given birth to us and we are Gods in the making? I gave birth to my children but they do not always do what I want. They have free will and make choices. So confusing.

  10. Wow, that woman is *really* embodied!

    One of the most interesting bits I got out of this interview was the suggestion that the identity continues after death of the individual identity, but it becomes identified with the Totality. “I, as the totality, playing the role…” Anyone have any comments on this?

    I also find the analogy of ego death and physical death to only hold true to a certain level. In physical death you have to let go of the name and body shape that you have known yourself to be, but there is certainly the possibility of the awareness continuing and carrying its subtle beliefs and conditioning with it into whatever experiential realm it goes. Death of the individual (ego) is more of a letting go of even the concept of ‘me’ and, as such, is a much more profound death…and birth.

    Nice to hear from you, Jill.

  11. Brenda – These questions often run through my mind too. Sometimes they stop running through my mind. What a relief that is! Cheers, Larry

  12. Yes, Larry……what a relief when they stop. And I have become so fluid that the characters are constantly changing. ha! Who am I now? There MUST be some freewill involved……….I hope.

  13. Yes, Larry..such a relief when it ceases. But here we all arel playing characters…..you, ,me, Rick, Ellie. I have become so fluid that I don’t know anything. ha! I switch characters constantly……so there must be freewill.

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