062. Paul Hedderman

Paul HeddermanPaul has been involved with the recovery community since 1988, and has been leading workshops and holding talks for 18 years.

He has been assisting those with addiction problems for many years. The 12 step program has some very potent ‘pointers’, which have assisted a few to go beyond the 12 steps.

Paul is unwavering in his teaching. His very direct, uncompromising pointing doesn’t provide a refuge for entrenched conditioning and the sense of separateness, no matter how convincing that experience may be.

“Whatever arises in my mind, I don’t let it vouch for me.”  “Any form of looking that focuses on an object misses the opportunity to directly be the seeing, and not be identified with the object.”

Paul’s site: ZenBitchSlap.

Transcript of this interview.

Interview recorded 3/26/2011

Audio and video below. Audio also available as a Podcast.

YouTube Video Chapters:

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction to Paul Hedderman
  • 00:03:18 – The Essence of Awakening
  • 00:05:13 – The cat knocking over the light and the value of interpretation
  • 00:07:31 – The false interpretation of a self
  • 00:10:00 – The Bogusness of Self
  • 00:12:23 – The concept of selfing explained
  • 00:14:30 – Language and the Reflective Mind
  • 00:17:12 – Freedom from the Bondage of Being a Self
  • 00:19:43 – A Conversation on Repetition and Learning
  • 00:22:15 – Childhood Innocence and Ant Wars
  • 00:24:33 – Finding Relief in Alcohol and Drugs
  • 00:26:50 – The Book of Recovery: A Spiritual Program
  • 00:28:49 – The Identification as Self
  • 00:31:34 – Living in “having found”
  • 00:34:13 – The Flow of Juice
  • 00:36:22 – Spiritual Practices and Near-Death Experience
  • 00:38:18 – Exploring Different Spiritual Practices
  • 00:40:48 – Letting Go of the Failed System
  • 00:43:03 – The Mental Vice of Selfing
  • 00:45:16 – The False Center
  • 00:47:46 – Degrees of Bondage
  • 00:50:05 – The Illusion of “Self” and Freedom from Selfing
  • 00:52:07 – The Pause in Selfing
  • 00:54:00 – Applying the Approach to Recovery
  • 00:56:22 – The Origin of “Zen Bitch-Slap”
  • 00:58:58 – The Illusion of Personal Death
  • 01:01:16 – The Seeing of What I’m Not
  • 01:03:23 – The Paradox of What’s Not Going On (with Rick Archer)
  • 01:06:01 – A Course In Miracles and the Structure of the Mind
  • 01:08:11 – Traveling Light through Maya
  • 01:10:15 – A Fun Place to Live

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